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Finding a better way
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Over the Christmas break I received a letter from the Principal of Greencastle High School informing me that a physical education class that my child was attending had a student who had been bullied in several outrageous ways.
Let me immediate state that I am opposed to any form of bullying and was appalled at the description of what went on in the class. However, I was even more upset at how the school handled the situation. Apparently the student did not complain of hazing but two other students told their parents who reported it to the school. Immediately, I think there are at least two witness to the events described in the letter. And, that these kids were obviously willing to discuss what they saw. And, the student himself could describe who and what happened to him. I know this because the class was told a police report was made by the boy's parents. However, the school chose to bully and intimidate all the students in the class. They were and are (according to the letter we received) being encouraged to "narc" (the principal's word, not mine) on each other. They were berated for "not stepping up" to their actions. And, were informed because "no one did a thing" the principal was turning his information over to the police. This was not directed at one, two or five kids who may have been involved but at the entire class. When a first round of questioning and threats took place in the classroom and there was no response, a second session took place. The entire class was seated on the bleachers while the principal told the students they needed to come forward and admit what they did. He also demanded anyone who knew or saw anything report it. He coerced, he threatened police involvement and called all students, or most, down to the office and interviewed them (without parents or legal counsel present) one by one. Since the letter, we have heard nothing else. Classes have resumed and there is a new group of kids in the class. It's the job of parents, educators and psychologists to watch out for and anticipate dangerous behavior. It should rarely be a legal or law enforcement issue, and it ought never to be the job of kids, students or classmates. Please note, I used the term "rarely." Meaning there may be some occasions when physical danger is present or medical help is needed. I happened to read an article in the "Los Angeles Times" recently about student informing and the impact it has on the school and the community. The article focused on the question: When a student helps a school investigates threats, who pays if the informant is sued? The parents of a high school freshman in Lancaster, California, are facing $40,000 in legal bills because their kid did what school officials have been urging kids to do for years: tell school officials of something suspicious they overheard. The girl quoted a classmate as saying: "We want to kill people; we're sick of them." She later reported that the boy threatened her for repeating his remarks. He was immediately charged with making terrorist threats and intimidating a witness, and a juvenile court judge ordered him to serve six months' probation. But courts overturned his expulsion as unconstitutional and unjustified, and the boy and his parents then sued his accuser, her parents, school and Los Angeles county officials. The charges, said his suit, made him the object of ridicule, hatred and distrust. A Superior Court Judge threw out his suit, but not before the girl's family spent $40,000 in legal fees defending her. The school, which asked her to inform, refused to represent her after she did. So now her parents are suing them to recoup their losses. Definitions of dangerous behavior are wildly subjective and complex, and kids often had a tough time distinguishing between run-of-the-mill obnoxious and posturing behavior, and truly dangerous behavior worthy of being reported to the police. Trained psychologists disagree about symptoms and behavioral warning signs. The bottom line seems as clear as it was after Columbine. The message to kids isn't that schools are safer, but for everybody to watch not only what they say, but what they hear or see. We try to teach our kids not to be bullies, and not to harm or harass other students, and the school system tries to enforce this ethic. Unfortunately, the sad fact is the schools use the same methods of bullying and intimidation to force students to tell on one another. The school principal ended his letter stating, "Everything comes back to the issue of respect. Simply, whether young or old, we need to teach and show young people the importance of respecting another, regardless of color of skin, religious belief, small, large, male, female--just doing what is right! Hopefully, we all have learned a valuable lesson." But who pays the legal bills when the school or the child's family is sued? And, what respect was shown to the majority of kids in the class who had nothing to do with this affair but were bullied and intimidated by school officials to "step up" and confess anything they saw or heard regarding their classmates? There has to be a better way to teach respect and still protect kids from dangerous bullying than to adopt the same bad behaviors of bullying and intimidation. Let's help the schools find it. Comments Showing comments in chronological order [Show most recent comments first] |
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I am once again appalled at the goings on in Greencastle. The child that was bullied, certainly had to be afraid of further mistreatment by his tormentors. But for the Administration of GHS to use such tactics to oust the wrong doers, no wonder there is bullying going on there in the first place!
Just for comment...What happened to the child who did the bullying. I think we all know the answer. Jim Church said in a article here on the Banner Graphic the all punishments would be handled fairly and equal throughout the High School. Most people in the community know of two athletes currently whom have committed offenses cleary defined in the Athletic Handbook and nothing happened. It's the same story that has plaqued this school system for years. It's not what you do it's who you are.
Teddy, uhh... no, parents do not have such a right. Do you really think that as a teacher, if a child uses vulgar language in class, I am supposed to read them their Miranda rights and have them seek legal counsel before I can ask a question in order to assign a detention? Read the first paragraph of http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa... if you have any questions.
Oops, meant to say "students" have no such right. Dealing with complete ignorance can do that to you sometimes.
Y'all people need to stop it!
OK. First, things have been going crazy here with me and I got snippy and called Teddy "ignorant." I apologize to you, you did not deserve that. However, that doesn't address the merits. You, and later Blackbear, made a claim that students have a right to parent or legal counsel during questioning (the blogger did not say it was a right and may have been asserting it as merely a good idea - I don't know). I provided an actual court case that said no. Here is another: http://www.nsba.org/site/doc_cosa.asp?Tr...
Teddy, read the cases carefully, you will notice that both of them do in fact refer to administrative questioning. Students do not have typical Miranda rights when being questioned by school officials for a reasonable cause. If you have actual case law, and not simply an assertion, to the contrary, I would be eager to hear it. Otherwise, you need to accept the rather overwhelming facts presented and not simply dismiss them.
Blackbear, you accused me of being unable to read. I would suggest that you go back and reread my original comment. You will notice I gave NO opinion on the nature of or appropriateness of the questioning being described by Ms. Ward. I addressed a very narrow claim concerning student Miranda rights. It was you who read something into my comment that was not there. I have seen situations where students and parents have greatly exaggerated and even made up claims on numerous occasions. I have NO reason to believe Ms. Ward is doing that, however, the administrator's position is not being presented. Therefore, I reserve judgment until all the facts are in. And that is what I teach my students. Base your opinion on real facts (assertions don't cut it) and do not pass judgment until those facts are in. Do you really have a problem with that?
What is wrong with you people? Don't you realize this is G.H.S. you're talking about?
Incidents like this are supposed to be swept under the rug, covered up and not talked about on a public forum.