Teacher charged for student's injury

Thursday, January 24, 2008

A former special education teacher at Cloverdale Middle School is expected to appear in court, possibly as early as Friday morning, to face a felony charge of battery for allegedly breaking a student's hand during an altercation in the classroom.

Scott W. Porter, 31, Cloverdale, was charged Thursday with one county of battery resulting in bodily injuring, a class D felony, on behalf of 15-year-old special education student Jordan Mundy.

According to a probable cause affidavit filed Thursday by Putnam County Prosecutor's Investigator Charles Bollinger, Porter pulled Mundy's finger during an altercation in the classroom on Jan. 11, resulting in the finger breaking.

A medical specialist in Indianapolis, who examined the student's hand, told Investigator Bollinger Thursday that the finger was in fact fractured and could require surgery.

Bollinger told the BannerGraphic Thurs-day that he is still waiting to receive the full report from the doctor and that depending on the full extent of the injuries, additional charges could be filed against the teacher.

According to the probable cause affidavit, the student said he was making fun of the teacher and that when he tried to run out of the classroom, the teacher grabbed him by the shirt and shoved him up against the chalkboard.

The boy also alleges the teacher put him in a headlock and wrestled him to the floor where he then struck the boy in the ribs several times. The boy says he grabbed Porter by the neck and that Porter responded by grabbing his index finger and hyper-extending it backwards, causing it to break.

During an interview with Bollinger, Porter denied touching the student's finger or shoving him up against the blackboard. He also denied telling the boy not to go to the nurse's office as was alleged by the boy's mother Michelle Britton when she spoke to the BannerGraphic Wednesday.

Britton has hired an attorney and said Thursday that she plans to sue Porter.

Porter resigned after the allegations surfaced. He did not return phone calls Thursday seeking comment.

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  • If the child properly respected authority 1. he would not have been "making fun" of the teacher and 2. would not have been so out of control that he took off running out of the room. If one of my children came home and told me they got their butt kicked for not following a teacher's basic instructions (like sit down and be quiet) then I would also be kicking their butt. I am reasonably sure that child involved is intelligent enough to know he was misbehaving. I feel so sorry for that teacher. I am sure this childs disruptive behavior was a continuous problem of this would not have happened

    -- Posted by mike andrews on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 12:23 AM
  • "I thought to myself "has to be from Stardust Hills"."

    I'm not defending the mother as I completely disagree with her "he's gonna be sorry" attitude and I personally don't live in Stardust but quite frankly your comments, Mr. Haney, are completely out of line in judging a person's character by the place in which they live.

    -- Posted by CdaleResident on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 1:01 AM
  • Stardust isn't all bad... but Marcia seems to have more on her plate now to try and take care of with her daughter and these children.

    -- Posted by momoffour on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 5:34 AM
  • I doubt other teachers will have to deal with this boy. My daughter said that he does not go to the regular classes because he can't behave. She said before Christmas he was in a fight, where he jumped the other boy from behind and got a punch off before the other guy let him have it.

    -- Posted by momoffour on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 5:50 AM
  • I'm not a fan of Mr. Porter at all, but if you look at his record and the relationships he has with his students I do not see how anyone would think this was anything but an accident. And speaking of records go look at the record of the mother and you will see that all this is about is a payday.

    -- Posted by cloverdad on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 6:23 AM
  • It only takes one rotten apple of the bunch to ruin it for everyone. This boy has ruined not only Mr. Porter's reputation...but negatively impacted the rest of his Life as well. Mr. Porter will probably live on and be able to deal with his history...however, this boy will probably end up on probation or possibly jail. Way to go MOM for letting your son know it is OK to disrespect authority figures!

    -- Posted by Sunflowermel on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 7:13 AM
  • When will our school administrators and our society in general take back the authority and respect they deserve and stop letting the kids, the criminals and the other rif-raf run the show? Can we not see that they have run it into the ground? It's only getting worse and it's time to try something different. Schools are for kids to learn from teachers so they can grow up and be productive adults, not act like heathens and beat the crap out of them because that's what they see on TV or from mom and dad! Parents: do your job parenting so teachers can do their job teaching and maybe these kids will be able to sit down and shut up for the school day and do their job LEARNING!

    -- Posted by RedHot on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 7:47 AM
  • It's a natural instinct for a mother to want to 'protect' her child. Although I do not know any of the people involved, it does sound like the mother is out of line too. "He's gonna be sorry" pretty much stated everything. It does sound like everyone involved is at fault here but chances are, this mom is going to have many more problems down the road. We also have to wonder if we will be seeing this boy in a few years as an adult in our community with the same disrespect problems towards authority figures.

    -- Posted by bannerstuff on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 7:59 AM
  • What in the world does living in Stardust have to do with it? There are many fine homes and families that live in Stardust. There are so called rif-raf everywhere, you shouldn't judge people by where they reside.

    -- Posted by lskelton2 on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 8:20 AM
  • I wonder how he is behaving now at school. Wonder who his favorite teacher is today(probably all rushing to the occassion LOL:-)(NOT) Wonder if the school will discipline him or let him do as he pleases. Oh! they won't discipline him because he is a special ed student and because they are afraid of the money hungry mother. "Let the kids rule." Isn't that the new crase now days. So sad:-(

    -- Posted by itwillcomebackandbiteyou on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 8:21 AM
  • Well the student took off his splint in class and was moving his finger around like nothing happened.

    I think they should check the mother's background.

    Many students love Mr. Porter and they are devastated by all of this. I wish you could see what happens in all the schools in putnam county. Teachers let students get away with way too much

    -- Posted by cdaleclover on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 8:23 AM
  • To the Mother :

    Your statement you made on Television last night was very disturbing......


    I totally disagree with this one.....



    -- Posted by takeastand on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 8:48 AM
  • I think it is time that our school system

    rethink how these troubled children are to be dealt with....This Parent apparently has

    not been able to teach her child how to act.

    So maybe she should have to send him to a private ran school for troubled children .Lets get them out of our school so our Teachers can do their jobs and teach and not have to deal with kids like this. Make the parents finally deal with what they have created..........

    -- Posted by takeastand on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 10:02 AM
  • The Teacher Shortage

    A recent article by the Associated Press suggests that a teacher shortage is threatening Indiana. According to the article, the average age of teachers in Indiana is on the rise. Currently 36% of Indiana's teachers are over the age of fifty. Based on that figure, ten thousand Indiana teachers could retire today with full benefits. Likewise, the state of Illinois is also experiencing a teacher shortage with an estimated thirty thousand teachers expected to retire by 2008. The article further asserts that thousands of administrative positions will be open as well. Special Education teaching positions are also growing deficient in numbers. The AP contends that nationwide, about 2.2 million new teachers will be needed during the next decade, with 44,000 of them necessary in Indiana. I believe that this article is simply conveying that there is an impending educational crisis in our nation given that more teachers are retiring then new teachers are entering the field. As an educator, I can certainly sympathize with today's college students who are shying away from educational careers. The teachers hands are growing increasingly tied. Given the constant threat of law suites and the blatant disrespect students and parents have for teachers; it is no surprise that college students lack the incentive to enter the teaching profession. It would behoove parents everywhere to wise up and learn to respect and teach their children to respect teachers before they are faced with the challenge of teaching their children from home.

    -- Posted by Obadiah on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 10:13 AM
  • Obadiah...I am also a teacher. I agree that there are fewer parents & students who respect teachers today more than ever before...But, I think it is important for teachers to remember one thing...if you want kids to respect you & to show you respect, then you MUST show them respect as well. I am not sure this was the case in this situation.

    -- Posted by hoopdreams on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 11:37 AM
  • I don't know the teacher Mr. Porter nor the student in this case. When I was a student in school about 20 years ago there were several rules in our home. But one particular rule was "if you ever get in trouble at school, when you get home your punishment will be hundred fold." My parents would back the teacher or another adult 100%. So whatever punishment the school and/or teacher felt necessary was fine by our parents. Most times we didn't dare act up in school due to the fear of what punishment would be coming to us as children when we got home. But there were those times we would try to get away with something and as mentioned above, our parents would back the school, and punishment would most assured would happen at home.

    But somewhere in our society we have stopped teaching our children respect for those in authority over them. There is always an excuse as to why someone should not be held to authority. It should not matter who or what your race, parents, academic level, emotional level, physical level, or financial status is. All children behave the way they are taught regardless of any of the mentioned above. Most children if taught know if there is a consequence to their actions; they will rethink their behavior. This is where our society is falling short. There are no serious consequences for treating, back talking, or smarting off to a teacher or those in authority. And what is sad this is now rippling into our work places. Ask any employer the lack of respect of individuals who work for them. In another generation it's going to be even worse.

    I commend all teachers and educational staff, I wouldn't do their job. I couldn't handle the disrespect they our receiving. The fact is teachers are in consist fear that some parent is just waiting to sue them or get upset with them over their own Childs bad behavior.

    I am a parent of three children and our rule in our home is just the same as it was in my home as a child. If you even think of disrespecting a teacher or (other any adult's authority) the consequences to our children when they get home would be above that of what the school would be handing out. And yes, we have taught our children there are adults who do bad behavior also and to watch out for those (but most educators and adults in authority over them are not that way).

    -- Posted by withpassion on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 12:32 PM
  • You all are DUMB if you think Porter didn't know what he was doing! Stop and think about the force he had to use to break that child's finger. Yeah, the boy has issues, but what about Porter's issues? Where were all you Porter-lovers when he was asked to leave a baseball game because he got in a boy's face and screamed? This guy is a time-bomb waiting to explode. Ever heard of Prozac?

    -- Posted by your mom on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 1:27 PM
  • I hope your finger or hand heals quickly it sounds like you are making a speedy recovery already...Shame on you student for acting out in class....Shame on you Mom for allowing your child to grow up like this......and we all know this Teacher is paying the price for his actions.....Hey parents it is about time that we all step up to the plate and take responsibility for our kids actions, if they do drugs you need to stop it, if they drink stop it, if they disrespect authority figures stop it...It is not okay for all of this to be going on in and out of our schools. Who cares what mistakes you made as a kid. You should know better then as a parent. If you can not do your job as a parent maybe you should give your children up to someone who can.. There are plenty of People in this world who want kids that can not have any. What a shame when there are so many parents in this world giving birth and expecting everyone else to raise what they created. Take birth control and stop your cycle so the rest of this world does not have to pay for your lack of parenting.....Stop making excuses for yourself if your life was bad as a kid then you should make certain this does not happen to your kids lives.

    -- Posted by takeastand on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 1:35 PM
  • I am closely related to someone who works with kids on the psych unit of a hospitol. they take training in how to react in situations where their own (the tech"s) safety is threatened. Needless to say, a few accidental injuries have accured to out of control children. Very few do not benefit in the long run. Cloverdale. back up your teachers! Back them up before you loose more good ones!

    -- Posted by knowcloverdaletoowell on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 1:52 PM
  • They need to look at the students history of behavior in addition to the teachers. It was the student who started disrespecting the teacher first. He should have been disciplined at that point and sent to the principles office so that his mother could have picked him up and taught him that we do not disrespect authority figures such as teachers. Oh wait... if she had done that already he would not have been misbehaving in the first place.

    Mom... discipline your child and stop threatening the people! That would be a start!

    -- Posted by nikkilpn on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 2:57 PM
  • Mr. Porter has been my sons teacher for the past 2 years. All of our experiences with him have been positive. He has been the only teacher in all the years my son has been in special education to follow through with what he says he is going to do. He has always been very helpful and even went as far as to give me his cell phone number so I could call him on the weekend to discuss my son because of my work schedule. It is obvious that he cares deeply for these children. My son is very sad that he will no longer have Mr. Porter for a teacher. It is a great loss for the students at Cloverdale. I believe in my heart that he did not intentionally hurt this child. Thank You Mr. Porter for all you did for my son. You will be greatly missed.

    -- Posted by c'daleparent on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 8:48 PM
  • I've seen the teacher at many different sporting events and yeah he gets loud, BUT WHAT MAN DOESN'T. I've seen grown men go at it after a pee-wee football game, they were also coaches. I've seen coaches get kicked out of games for the way they behave. I've seen certain school board members coach and end up in the middle of a baseball diamond ready to duke it out with the other teams coach. This doesn't even include the coaches at the school who are also administrators scream, holler, kick buckets & belittle a young man so bad it brings him to tears and publicly humiliates him in front of the entire gymnasium. I've seen mothers so upset that their child didn't get enough playing time that their up cussing in the coaches faces. Alot of times I don't see parents show up at all to support their child, but you know who has been there to encourage their kids, students, and maybe even some of you that are giving negative comments kids, Mr. Porter. So, I am not saying that all of his actions have ever been the greatest but I will guarantee you this... Mr. Porter was the best teacher to these children and I strongly suggest to everyone out there that we take a good look at our own actions, before we pass judgement on someone else.

    -- Posted by thetruthwillsetyoufree on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 8:56 PM
  • I'm pretty sure all us DUMB people have seen others yell at ballgames as well. Including mothers screaming to the top of her lungs at her own kids. Porter was probably yelling at another disrespectful kid that doesn't listen to anyone, including his own mother. I'm pretty sure Porter wasn't the only coach thats had that problem...but lets blame everything on him as a coach and not be concerned over our own actions. It is always easier to pass the buck then take into consideration, that our children just might be at fault too. I know my child isn't perfect but I live in reality and don't pretend he is....

    -- Posted by know your facts on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 9:20 PM
  • OMG..are some of you people serious?! So, let me get this right..if some of you people had it your way the child would be kicked out of school and shipped off and the teacher wouldnt have to deal with anything?! Give me a break! I dont know either one of the people in this article nor do i know the mother and her personal life and background information like many of you seem to know so well..but what i DO know is that in my classes I'm taking for Elem Ed. NO WHERE does it state it's OKAY to break a childs finger because they were running their mouth to you. COME ON people...you act like this man is not at all responsible for BREAKING A KIDS FINGER....he didnt just bruise the kid a little HE BROKE A CHILDS FINGER... I dont care if the child cussed him out..YOU DONT DO THAT!! If that was MY child would he be in trouble for being a brat and running his mouth and being disrespectful YES....but would I be FURIOUS with that teacher and expect him to get what he's getting...YES!!! They both deserve to be in trouble but that kid didnt deserve for his finger to get broken. If the mother would have broken the kids finger because he got mouthy with her she would have been arrested for child abuse. But I'm sure you people would have thought that was a fair punishment for her...

    -- Posted by putcoresident on Fri, Jan 25, 2008, at 11:29 PM
  • So many of you people are so chewed up. Just becuz he was a good teacher doesn't mean he should get buy with it. I don't like jocks anyways. So what some of you are saying is that it's ok to go around and break fingers on kids if they get out of control. I hope the mom sues the crap out of the school and wins. If there is damage to that kids hand for life, there should be a big law suit there. It just amazes me on some of your comments. I guess I'll send a note to school with my kids and tell the school it ok for them to break there fingers. Because thats whatsome of you sound like.stupid stupid people.

    -- Posted by billy b on Sat, Jan 26, 2008, at 3:03 AM
  • "billyb"-- I haven't read where people think Porter should get by with it. He lost his job. resigned or fired...he won't teach again at Cloverdale or maybe never again in any school. That is a huge punishment for horseplay on his part. Plus the BS and MS degree = thousands of dollars that go to the way side. Porter is being punished severly for his mistake and innappropriate behavior. This mundy kid doesn't seem to learned from him mistake though. He is already horsing around again in school- less than 2 weeks after this incident. He does get to continue being a student and pampered for the rest of his schooling. He will be a continuous threat to other students and teachers because it won't behave. He's been in serious fights at school with other students. How are some of you going to behave when this boy punched your boy in the face at lunch! This just happened a couple months ago. ARe you going to go back and see where he has had several incidents of fighting and then blame the same school that some of you are blaming for not protecting this student. Porter is done as a teacher. Leave him alone. He is very remorseful.

    -- Posted by momoffour on Sat, Jan 26, 2008, at 7:32 AM
  • Yes, I think that the news channels should be able to hear the teachers side to this story and all of the supporters that know what kind of person this teacher is, and what kind of people the student and his mother are. I think the Cloverdale school board needs to know that the parents who are tierd of bullies (like this kid) support Mr. Porter! Let's start a petition!

    -- Posted by nikkilpn on Sat, Jan 26, 2008, at 9:20 AM
  • Its all going to come out in the wash. What so many of you don't understand is the over all picture. This is one incident involving a teacher and student. REGARDLESS of the actions the student may have presented, there is a procedure of how to deal with defiant / disrespectful / out of control children, if this was the case. Sure at that time, the student was subject to dicipline and I would assume the procedure is to send him to the dicipline authorities of the school. With the zero tolerance that someone was talking about, this same procedure would be used. The reason why Criminal charges were filed is not because of the students actions, but the teachers actions. We expect the students to be held accountable (I do to), but the teachers are held on a higher level of standard and accountability. PERIOD. I don't understand why so many people are acting as though the actions of the teacher, no matter how the student acted, was justified or even feel that teachers actions didn't qualify for dicipline, termination, or resigning. My personal opinion which I do know the teacher and I do not know the student. As parents, we are held at a higher standard legally as well, no matter what your children do, you do not have the right to lay your hands on them in a violent manner and cause bodily harm. You bring up it was horseplay and not a violent manner. Do you konw the teacher? Does he get offended when insulted about his height? Yes he does, so how does being offended by an insult turn into horseplay. Anywhere else, it would be considered a fight where violence is the result. still in my opinion, the teacher resigned because he knew either by warning from the authorities at the school that previous incidents made this his last chance and knew what the results were going to be so he resigned. Still in my opinion, it doesn't matter what the financial status of the mother is, status of health coverage of the child is, status of the living conditions of the child, keep in mind that a child that is dicipinary challenged, or flat out a smart *** punk kid, has the right to attend achool without contact from a teacher. Everyone wants to look at the childs past and the mothers past. I'm sure you would be surprised to see the teachers past, i'm sure you opinion would change about whether resigning was the proper thing to do and charges filed. There are dicipilary problems in our school and there is too much joking, kidding, etc... on the teachers behalf also. Mr. Porter isn't the only teacher who excessively jokes around and students don't know if they are serious or not. It is indeed a sad day but "I saw this coming a mile away". Does anyone know about bleach in the face? Everything that his happening now, should hav happened a long time ago. !!!!!!! staysecret@gmail.com

    -- Posted by Called it a mile away on Sat, Jan 26, 2008, at 11:17 AM
  • learn how to spell "called it a mile away"

    the bleach incident was over a young autisitic boy who was severely being abused by his so called "guardians" and the child admitted the teacher didn't tell him to do that and that the teacher tried to protect him, were you there when the teacher took his own money and purchased a new bike for this child for christmas, because he wasn't going to get anything?? didn't think you had that story. if that would've been my child that jumped on the teachers back, he would've been suspended from school, i'm so tired of children with labels getting by with everything they do, because the school is afraid to do something about it because they have a contract called an iep. so from now on unless you know what the hell you're talking about keep your opininion to yourself. one day it might be your child that gets hurt from one of these students and lets see how you feel then...

    -- Posted by know your facts on Sat, Jan 26, 2008, at 4:28 PM
  • Why did this mom NOt come to school 2 months ago when her kid jumped another student at lunch. Munday started a fight by jumping on another boy and sucker punching him. HE ended up getting the worse end of the fight and took 2 pull punches to the face. Mom never came in causing a problem then.

    -- Posted by momoffour on Sat, Jan 26, 2008, at 4:31 PM
  • Has a court date been set?

    -- Posted by momoffour on Sat, Jan 26, 2008, at 4:38 PM
  • well "know your facts" maybe one day it is your child that gets hurt by a teacher. And maybe my child has been a victim of this teachers previous incidents. Just because charges weren't filed, doesn't mean they weren't warranted. I guess they are being brought up now aren't they? I guess I am an authority on this matter and if you knew what you are talking about, then you know that I am one of many that knows exactly what he is capable of. He knew it eventually come around and bite him. If he didn't do anything wrong, why did he resign? What resign and then plead "not guilty" He should have learned in his training, that first step is accepting responsibility for your actions. So if all you can come up with is attacking my spelling, you are probably one to look for a loop hole to get him out of trouble with the law. Next thing you will be crying about is how the legal system doesn't protect the teachers and students. There are teachers everyday that get tormented by children, I'm not saying that is right, but where to you draw the line? Breaking bones? Just because his friends kept him out of trouble in the past and the schools overlooked his deeds in the past, doesn't mean he is above the law. He didn't jump the fence at the pool with children after hours either did he? Face it, his little man syndrome caught up with him. He isn't man enough to pick on adults or manipulate adults like he does kids. End of story.

    -- Posted by Called it a mile away on Sat, Jan 26, 2008, at 5:19 PM
  • ok "momoffour" you are so right, so lets break his fingers. I got an even better idea. Your missing the whole point. Open your mind, he is a kid and the teacher is the adult. NOTHING JUSTIFIES IT.

    -- Posted by Called it a mile away on Sat, Jan 26, 2008, at 5:21 PM
  • Will you people grow up??? THe child was in Anger Management class....not an angel...second....THis sue if you can crap is part of the problem....want your taxes higher????? Let Low Lifes sue...Your tax dollars at work.....pitiful

    -- Posted by sad_but_true on Sat, Jan 26, 2008, at 5:26 PM
  • After reading all of the other comments, I feel as though, this is a pay day for the mother( As she appeared on the news interview.) This teacher may have other issues, but, WHERE were the parental values prior to this confortation. Apparently, the parents aren't able to control this child or why would he be in an angry management class? Why weren't Child Protective Services involved? It seems as though, this child needed help for a long time. I'm concerned about other children in this family. When should CPS step in?

    -- Posted by pbyers on Sat, Jan 26, 2008, at 9:07 PM
  • know your facts....WHERE did you get the child jumped on the teachers back...just curious because I don't recall reading that ANYWHERE...

    -- Posted by putcoresident on Sat, Jan 26, 2008, at 10:13 PM
  • I have to comment on this story.

    I do not live in Cloverdale, not even near it. I have been there many times on my way to Indianapolis.

    There are two-sides to every story here. From what I have read about the student, he was no angel.

    When I was in high school many years ago, this kid came up to me and punched me in the stomach for no reason. I was angry. Later in the day, I confronted him going to class and I pushed him up against the wall and punched him a couple of times and a teacher came in and grabbed him and threw him up against the wall.

    I did not get into any trouble because everybody knew this kid was trouble. He had been into trouble before many times when I was in school. He got sent to the youth reformatory.

    The point is, these kids get away with murder these days. When I was in school, if you got into trouble, you got in trouble at home. It was that simple. No one thought of suing the teachers when I was in school either.

    -- Posted by jbharris30 on Sat, Jan 26, 2008, at 10:15 PM
  • It is my personal belief that if the child had not misbehaved, this incident would have never happened to begin with.

    It is sad that Mr. Porter lost his teaching job, and probably his teaching career along with it all because of some kid who would not do as he was told.

    Somewhere along the way, the parents of this kid did not do their job well or this incident would not have happened to begin with.

    This child is going to have problems throughout his life because he will not do as he is told to do. He will not have a job because he will be a problem at work. He will end up in jail, prison or worse, dead.

    When parents raise their kids to respect others, they will respect their parents, authority figures like their teachers, police and supervisors at work. When they don't teach their kids to respect others, the child will not respect the teachers and will grow to disrespect the police, bosses and other people and will be in trouble for the rest of their lives.

    Someone needs to take this child to Putnamville State Prison and give him a tour and a reality check. Maybe that will help him learn.

    -- Posted by jbharris30 on Sat, Jan 26, 2008, at 10:21 PM
  • i personally know mr.porter i was not not one of his students but he was my track coach from 04-07 and everyday during track season me and my best friend would do the the SAME thing that this kid did (call him short and other names liek that) he always told us to say itt o his face and we did and then we would satrt figting but we where just playing and so was he and he would never try to hurt anyone he liked all of us and i think this kids mom just wants to get money outa this

    -- Posted by cloverhurdler on Sat, Jan 26, 2008, at 11:11 PM
  • Cloverhurdler:

    PLEASE find an English textbook and refresh yourself on run-on sentences. My God, you haven't a clue!

    -- Posted by Bruther on Sun, Jan 27, 2008, at 12:49 AM
  • Has anyone thought about this? I personally hope that the prosecuter has something really bad to go on here because after reading all these comments (even the few bad ones)I'd have to say at this point: He is WASTING TAXPAYERS DOLLARS!

    -- Posted by knowcloverdaletoowell on Sun, Jan 27, 2008, at 7:45 AM
  • I do hope that this child gets some kind of help. I do not wish this child ill-will, but, he should have never called the teacher "Shorty" and then tried to run out the door. That was misbehavior.

    -- Posted by jbharris30 on Sun, Jan 27, 2008, at 5:08 PM
  • Well first of all let me start by saying that the MOM should not have anything to do with this situation period, she does not have custody of her children, they live with their grandmother in Stardust. She is just looking for money and whoever was wondering why she wasn't there two months ago when the child was in a fight well that is why, she is never around. For those of us who do know Porter, we can all say that yes is a little over the top when it comes to sports or horseplay, but he is a really good teacher. A lot of the special education students througout the years really respected him, and sometimes he would be the only teacher they would respect. I'm not saying what happened in the end is okay, but there are two sides to the story and the mom just needs the money for her lifestyle, not her child's wellbeing.

    -- Posted by cloverspirit on Sun, Jan 27, 2008, at 5:46 PM
  • Seems to me that everyone is forgetting one factor, A STUDENT got his finger broken by A TEACHER.

    I want to add to this, I happen to know both, the teacher and the little boy.

    And I know for a fact that this kid cares about Scott, and I also know that Scott broke his finger, and I think that before you judge anyone look in the mirror who do you see, when you point a finger at someone there is ALWAYS three fingers pointing back at you.

    I would like to say if you dont know the whole story about this family dont shout out what you think you know I have heard all this from someone we all know well.I know for a fact this mother has custody of her kid, but not only 1 kid but she has 3. She and her mother moved here from Indianapolis area, And her mother had grown up here as well as the boys mother. I also know that the kids mother has had medical problems and grandmother has been a big help raising them, you know i have up most respect for this family for the fact that they are not on any kind of public assistants, the only thing the mother receives is child support, no food stamps, nothing. They take care of themselves finanically. I know where all the hateful remarks are coming from and I know that there is alot of things being said on this, that shouldnt be said, and I know where it started from they have said it too me too and I had told them the same thing that im telling you, better not say something that is going to end up bitting you in your *** to.

    I know if this was to happen to your child, how would you feel knowing that scott and him were close, and something heartbreaking like this happens. You know if you would of broke a child finger with force, yourself would be under investgation as well. So lets all do everyone a big favor and let all this hate, and all come to an end, I know neither of the families need to live like this. I know this will all come to and end, but there is one thing that will never be forgotten that is the fact that a boy is the one who will always remember that his finger was broke by someone he concidered his friend, and now as bad as this childs finger hurts he had said on the news "I love Scott as he was my father" and I believe he meant it he said it with hurt in his voice and if you all didnt hear that in his voice then you are deaf, he is hurt in many ways.

    One more thing I would like to say but to the mother, I wish you the best of luck with your son, and remember one thing, just cause your son is in some special classes at school doesnt make him a bad child. GOD BLESS AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

    A neighbor of yours in stardust.

    -- Posted by stardustsmomof4 on Sun, Jan 27, 2008, at 7:49 PM
  • lskelton- I was referencing "rif-raf" in general. Nothing was said about Stardust. I do not care where anyone currently lives or where they came from. Why do people from Stardust seem to be so sensitive? I don't even know where it is. Unfortunately, I think you missed the point.

    billyb- If this student should have permanent hand damage, how will we know it's from the broken finger and not from all the punches he gives other kids or playing around? Couldn't it be difficult to say?

    -- Posted by RedHot on Mon, Jan 28, 2008, at 7:54 AM
  • This student is gonna be in far more trouble.

    He was caught by a teacher and many students taking his splint off in all of his classes

    -- Posted by cdaleclover on Mon, Jan 28, 2008, at 8:03 AM
  • I have another question for all of you out there. How is it possible for there to be law suits filed for medical expences of a dependent child on MEDICAID? Doesn't this get paid already by us tax payers. So does this mean the mother intends to pay back MEDICAID when she wins (IF SHE WINS?)? Just wondering if anyone else thought of this.

    -- Posted by 6dogs on Mon, Jan 28, 2008, at 3:07 PM
  • I'm just curious as to where you all are getting your imformation.I read the same story that you did and I don't see all of this imfo on the mom,grandma,medicaid,and Stardust.I think you all have turned a tragic situation into a gossip fest.How sad your lives must be to be filled with such hatred and resentment.

    -- Posted by Indymom7 on Mon, Jan 28, 2008, at 4:06 PM
  • My son said the Munday boys are walking around the halls laughing about all the attention they are getting and the fact that they have been chewing gum and no teachers have made them spit it out. I guess you get lunch detention for gum.

    -- Posted by momoffour on Mon, Jan 28, 2008, at 6:49 PM
  • If the student took off his splint, his hand must not hurt too bad.

    I do not wish any ill-will towards this child. However, regardless of what happened, whether it was horseplay or not, the child should not have opened his mouth in the first place and then try to run out of the classroom.

    Also, where was the mother at when this boy got into a fight around Christmas? It is up to the parents to raise their children properly, not the church, not the teachers and not the government. If the parents do not raise their children right, where do they end up? They end up in jail, prison or worse, dead. I do not think any of us want to see this child end up like that.

    -- Posted by jbharris30 on Tue, Jan 29, 2008, at 2:44 PM
  • jbharris30 - good point !! Mom IS responsible in seeing that her child is raised to be able to make the choice to become a productive member of our society. In reading all these articles and comments - a lot of "excuses" have been made for this student over the years instead of any accountability.

    Regarding this incident specifically: I think all involved in this - the student, teacher, parent, principal, school administrator - are accountable for their actions or lack thereof.

    Mom shouldn't file suit against the teacher or the school. Her son behaved in a disrespectful manner in the first place. This is a life lesson for her son, and it may save his life in the future. If he has any common sense - he'll think twice about mouthing off to an authority figure in the future.

    I've formed the opinion over the past ten years that the public school system as a whole is run by bullies - and bullying (Jerry-Springer-esque) parents. School administrators claim to be supportive of their staff until the 'L' word (lawsuit) is used by one of these parents - and then they seem to fold.

    -- Posted by Scripted Spontaneity on Tue, Jan 29, 2008, at 5:45 PM
  • ok i have something to add to this as well.

    I know that child services are involed in this matter and i know as a adult that when something like this happens in school you are to take first steps and call someone well porter didnt follow the rules, he sent jordan mundy to the next class and wouldnt let him seek medical help. Jordan reported to the office at 11:30 and then the right phone calls were made, i know that the parent wouldnt be so upset if the right steps was made,but they wasnt,till later on that day.

    -- Posted by stardustsmomof4 on Wed, Jan 30, 2008, at 7:15 PM
  • Well, Stardustmomof4, why don't you take Jordan Mundy in and let him live with you? You act like it is all the teacher's fault.

    The kid was disrespectful to the teacher. He was in an anger management class. He was in a fight around Christmas. Where was Mom then? From what I have also read (and I do not know if it is true or not), he punched a girl in the face at a bus stop. Sounds like a real winner doesn't he?

    Where is Mom at now? Why isn't she on this post and defending her son? You know what, this is a payday for her. If the Mundy boy did not want Mr. Porter to get into any trouble, then why didn't he tell the truth about what really happened? Also, if his finger was broken in three places, he could not have taken his splint off and moved it around. Too many kids at school seen him doing this. He is also laughing at all the attention this is getting him.

    The Mundy boy is a bully. Bullies need to be dealt with in the right way so that they will stop bullying and use their anger and energy for something positive so that they will not end up in jail.

    The boy needs discipline. The boy has no respect for his fellow students, his teachers, his mother or himself. When you have no respect for others, you have no respect for yourself either.

    I recommend a mentor for the boy. Someone who will help him out and give him some discipline and help him have some respect and self-discipline for himself so that he will be a productive, hard working member of society.

    No one likes a bully.

    -- Posted by jbharris30 on Wed, Jan 30, 2008, at 11:15 PM
  • Jordan was recently seen punching a student in the hallway with the hand that had the broken finger.

    Why dont the teachers turn this in.

    He deserves to get in trouble for taking off the splint.


    -- Posted by cdaleclover on Thu, Jan 31, 2008, at 11:45 AM
  • "jb" you are so right, but who will be the one to take a stand and help this kid?

    -- Posted by mad-mom on Thu, Jan 31, 2008, at 4:36 PM
  • The business of raising a child is complicated. Throw in free public education for all students and the complications grow astronomically. Looking at the past few months we've seen a multitude of serious teen related issues in our community. Why? Because we have forgotten one of the oldest adages, "It takes a village to raise a child." We no longer trust one another to assist us in this venture or we are so self absorbed that the thought of accepting someone's help doesn't cross our mind.

    When I was a kid I could count on just about everyone in my neighborhood to rat me out to my parents if I was doing something wrong. Now parents see that as an insult. My neighbors cared about me, my teachers cared about me, and my parents accepted the help. I could also count on someone to listen to me and my problems. Both of my parents worked, but they made sure I had a safe, caring place to go after school. How many of our kids go home to an empty home every night, sometimes all night while single-mom/dad is out working or worse, partying? These kids are alone. They are angry. They have not learned the basic coping and relational skills that many of use learned, being raised in a different time, with different values.

    For our county though, this is in many cases a generational epidemic. This isn't something new for many families. Cycles of teen pregnancy, drug use, violence, etc. are common with no end to the cycle in sight. We will become what our parents have taught us to become, because as I have read, "parents are never not modeling behaviors to their children."

    The problem is larger than we want to believe. The answer isn't easy. There is no quick fix. It isn't just a parent problem or just a school problem. It takes faith in our God and each other. It takes a village. "God bless us, everyone."

    -- Posted by CitizenKid on Sat, Feb 2, 2008, at 10:55 AM
  • This kid needs to be taught that it is not ok to disrepect authority figures, period!

    Mr. Porter, we support you. This mother is only out for some money even though all her kids are bullies. Next time this kid messes with someone, maybe they will do more than hurt his finger. He needs to learn a lesson from this.

    -- Posted by nikkilpn on Sat, Feb 2, 2008, at 1:07 PM
  • stardustmomoffour, i'm sure cps is involved with this case, but i'm also sure they've been involoved with the mundy's prior to this incident. since your so much for this family, how about the next time their throwing rocks at an old man or harassing a little girl on the bus or bothering a basketball teachers daughter or holding a knife to a five year olds neck HOW ABOUT TAKING CARE OF IT!!! i believe the little girl just got done serving grasp for some of her behaviors, but she is still at school tormenting other kids, the school can't do anything because they have iep's that prevent them from doing to much of anything. if that was one of our children their butts would of been thrown out of school A LONG TIME AGO!!! I think its ok for children that have learning disabilities to be given some extra time to do their work, or a child with a physical disability to have his PE class modified, BUT I DON'T THINK CHILDREN WITH MAJOR BEHAVIORS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO WHATEVER THE HECK THEY WANT AND GET A FREE PASS. I know of a young man that chewed gum and got lunch detention, so what happens to these mundy bullies, NOT A DARN THING...

    -- Posted by know your facts on Sat, Feb 2, 2008, at 3:31 PM
  • nice story michelle

    -- Posted by stardustsmomof4 on Sat, Feb 2, 2008, at 10:52 PM
  • The fact that the Mundy's mother is seeking financial awards from her son's bad behavior is EXACTLY the reason that she and her children are under such scrutiny. I would be embarrased if I were her, knowing that my child acted in such a way toward his teacher. I would take my son to school make him apologize to the teacher, not cry victim!

    There is still time to drop the charges and let Mr. Porter get his life back together. Ms. Mundy, you know your kids are out of control, why ruin a teachers life over it! It's your problem, not his!

    -- Posted by nikkilpn on Sun, Feb 3, 2008, at 9:12 AM
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