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GCSC getting tough on law-breaking athletes

Friday, July 11, 2008

The Greencastle School Board is considering an amendment to its policy regarding participation in sports activities.

The board is considering adding language that would prohibit a student from participating in athletics if he or she is serving court-issued probation. They cannot return to sports until that probation has been served.

The policy change was given to the corporation attorney for his review. Board members will consider it at their August meeting.


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No wonder kids get in so much trouble these days. Everything is taken away from them.Why can't they be pushed to work harder in their sport until probation or whatever is over with? Don't treat them like toddlers.

-- Posted by what_it's_worth on Fri, Jul 11, 2008, at 12:13 AM

What? You have to be joking, what it's worth. How about this......if they didn't break the rules, they wouldn't be on probation and wouldn't have to worry about the penalties.

-- Posted by Bruther on Fri, Jul 11, 2008, at 12:51 AM

Athletes are supposed to be good examples, not criminals. They need to accept responsibility for their actions, not be rewarded for misconduct.

-- Posted by beachbum on Fri, Jul 11, 2008, at 6:51 AM

Just because a kid is on probation does not mean that he/she is a bad kid. It means they made a mistake.Don't condemn anyone by referring to them as criminals before you know the facts.Part of the problem with these so called criminals is that their self esteem is in the toilet from constant negative comments such as that. Sports could make them better people.It would give them something to focus on. A busy kid is not going to have time to get into anymore trouble.

-- Posted by citizenoftheworld on Fri, Jul 11, 2008, at 7:31 AM

What is wrong with giving a kid a chance to make a different decision,to prove they are not the bad kid everyone thinks they are? Not all kids are repeat offenders and do have the ability to do positive things if given the opportunity. The goal of the justice system should be rehabilitation and trying to find a positive outlet for kids. I can not think of a better outlet than sports.You cannot take every single privilege away from a kid and expect that kid to prosper in a positive manner.

-- Posted by citizenoftheworld on Fri, Jul 11, 2008, at 8:35 AM

I will only say this; If any of my three children get into trouble (whether or not that law is involved or not) I as the parent will prohibit them from playing sports, dependent on the severity of the problem. I think the school is on the right track. Kids mess up, and as they prosper into adults they have to be taught there are consequences for their decisions. What better place to be taught this than from SCHOOL.

-- Posted by Whynotwrite on Fri, Jul 11, 2008, at 9:15 AM

this subject is like religion....it will not be resolved.

kids now days, for the most part, are nothing of what there parents raised them to be. how many people know the preachers kid that gets in all the trouble, or the school principal kid and how about the firemans kid, oh yeah what about the cheif of polices kid. these are all "for examples". we all know about them and we all talk about them. do you really thank they raised there kids to get in all that trouble. NO they didnt--good answer.

our kids go wrong with the choice of who they are hanging out with. some groups steal, some smoke pot, some go around fighting, some pop pills and yes some help our community and volunteer. watch the groups that your kids hang in, look at how they dress and what they do and you will see and learn what you have raised. for most parents there kids are not what they raised. but the kid is who they want to be at the time. its a "phase", we all have been thru them...u can only hope they learn from all this to be the better person in the end.

you take sports away from a kid on probation then you just took something positive away from this kids life. so add one more negative to the kids life. how many negatives do they need? they are everywhere...

we all know kids do stupid, impulsive things. we all did them to and just didnt get caught. lets not put them in a system where they are surrounded by negatives lets help them enjoy life by making the right decisions.

my thoughts would be to ban the kids from sports or other activities if the kid has a probation violation. then we would know the kid was not serious about bettering themselves.

-- Posted by badboy46120 on Fri, Jul 11, 2008, at 9:34 AM

Oh, Citizen of the World.... So sad that there really are parents out there with that attitude. And we wonder why the kids are this way these days! First of all, I would certainly HOPE that these kids "just making mistakes" are making smaller ones and being grounded at home, learning from those mistakes! To be "making mistakes" big enough to put them on probation really makes a person wonder what is being taught to this child at home! Anyone that is truly trying to teach this kid and struggling with that, would surely welcome any other type of help in getting the message across. Certainly rewarding them with playing sports is assinine. If you think busy kids is the answer, put them to work. That will keep them busy too as well as teaching them the value of a dollar. Kids these days think the world owes them something and it really makes people wonder what kind of parents out there are setting these examples!

-- Posted by bannerstuff on Fri, Jul 11, 2008, at 9:34 AM

I support this decision 100%......maybe the other Putnam County schools will follow - one can only hope. As a sportsmom from another school other than Greencastle, we sure would lose alot of good athletes, especially regarding female sports!

-- Posted by tennismom on Fri, Jul 11, 2008, at 10:52 AM

It's about time that something was done to the athletes that do things outside the law. These kids, alot of the time, are role models for their peers & younger athletes and if they get away with things, it is not setting a good example. They need to be suppended. It doesn't have to be for the whole season, maybe a game or two. It might do them good, maybe embarrass them a little AND just maybe they won't do it again. When they get put on probation with the court, they need to be on probabtion with the school. This should have happened a long time ago. It hurts the kids that don't get into trouble, when you let the ones that do- off without any consquences.

-- Posted by ladycubs on Fri, Jul 11, 2008, at 11:46 AM

It's about time schools look at holding students accountable for actions not only during school but outside of school. So many parents do not get involved in there child's activities. Let's hope the coaches also follow the rules. Why don't we reward the students who have good behavior instead of constantly rewarding those who have bad behavior. My son is a student @ GHS, as a parent it is hard to watch someone be sidelined and those who are constantly in trouble be starters & look where those students are now. Wake up Greencastle, maybe if these students had true discipline for there actions from parents and teachers they would not misbehave!!!!! Let's encourage education & not sports.

-- Posted by Casey7780 on Fri, Jul 11, 2008, at 1:55 PM

This is a topic that is very tough and I commend GHS for reviewing their policies.

However, I view this a little different from some. I would hope that school and its associated activities would be blind to what a student has done outside of its walls, unless it had to do with the school or the safety of its students and facilty. If that student works hard, keeps grades up, stays out of trouble and is a good citizen at school, why should be make them a second class citizen there. Sometimes this may be the one positive aspect of their lives and is keeping them from getting into more trouble. If they are doing all of this, they should be treated like other students. If they are not, they should also be treated like other students and have privileges taken away.

Another issue is that of trying to make the school a surrogate parent for kids. We bring them into the world and we should love them, guide them, punish them (when needed). We should be the ones withholding these types of activities if it is needed.

-- Posted by hoosierpete on Fri, Jul 11, 2008, at 2:57 PM

I believe that parents as well as the school should set the rules and do it together. The problem is that the parents get very MAD at the school leaders for making rules. They then complain that their child is being picked on. Then the school backs down.

It is a shame that the so called STARS seem to get by with NO accountability but the unknown students, who actually make the other the STARS, get the punishments.

The parents of these children in the school system need to grow up themselves, set rules, take away the TV, Cell phones, computers and cars from their children and make them work at chores at home and out in the community. If the parents would spend quailty time, set good examples and be thoughtful of others, their own children would be better students and later adults who would raise their own to be exemperary residents of Greencastle.

Make the rules, follow the rules no matter who the student is. Do not play favorites and do not let the parents interfere with the rules after they are set.

Yes, the teachers should follow the rules also.

I get very upset when I see teachers dressed in attire not at the code that the students have to adhere to. Wake up teachers. you set examples too>

-- Posted by reader 2 on Fri, Jul 11, 2008, at 6:10 PM

School is Government folks. Why do you think you can't say God or talk about God in schools, because Church and State are supposed to be separate. So yes, getting into trouble outside of schools is the same as getting in trouble in school. It's all paid for by taxes. So basically the kid should be in trouble in School if he is on probation. I also think that if your kid under 18 gets put on probation that parent should be put in the same kind of probation. And if you get to the point that you think your kid is going to run off and do something stupid, then maybe you'll actually punish them or seek help before they do the crime. Or they could have a program that you attend with your child in order to make up for the crime. Then parents won't be able to just blow their kids of and say oh well.

-- Posted by Talkergirl on Fri, Jul 11, 2008, at 6:36 PM

I thought the purpose of the "Your Comments" was to state our opinions, NOT to bicker back and forth. Everyone's opinions are different. I have my own and I don't care what other's say back to me. "Are you kidding me?!"

-- Posted by what_it's_worth on Sat, Jul 12, 2008, at 3:37 AM

I think this is a horrible idea, especially given the state of the local juvenile probation system which puts the recommendation of probation or prosecution on one individual.

I would prefer a rule that bars participation to ALL STUDENTS in ALL ACTIVITIES if they violate probation. Not if they're put on it. That would seem to be more reasonable. People -- kids especially -- will make mistakes. Otherwise we wouldn't have the cliche' "young and stupid."

But they deserve the right to learn from them without the schools joining in the prosecution process. That's not what schools are there for.

Lets spend less time social engineering and more time motivating. Psychology 101 says positive motivation is more rewarding than negative.

-- Posted by whatsup on Sat, Jul 12, 2008, at 11:40 AM

That was great..thank you whatsup!

-- Posted by citizenoftheworld on Sat, Jul 12, 2008, at 5:56 PM

I think it would be a great idea if the school got involved with these students. A family member of mine recently got into a little trouble. They will be on probation for awhile. This family member will be able to continue to participate in a fall sport. I disagree with this practice. This child shows no remorse for what put them on probation and this childs parents did not punish them. Actually the parents are bascially treating this child like they are a baby again. It make me sick to see this. This child committed a crime and not a punishment was set fourth by the partents and only probation for 6 months by the court (big deal).

-- Posted by sickofpolitics on Mon, Jul 14, 2008, at 8:36 AM

Lets pull them away from sports and give them more free time GREAT thinking, give me a break. Also in today's day and age we have so many parents out there wanting to point fingers and give statements saying " oh not my child " learn how to parent your children. I dont care what community your in ...Greencastle,Carmel,Avon, I know many great parents with kids doing things they are clueless about yet the kid ends up in college with great potential ahead of them, some kids get caught some dont but for the most part its all around us lets let our children listen to more rap music on the coolness of gettin crunk or how about another beer commercial. Oh wait I have a better idea lets watch baseball inject roids, football players go to strip clubs, and our basketball players state how normal it is to spark up a doobie.

-- Posted by Zionsville317 on Thu, Jul 17, 2008, at 9:26 AM

wow parents!...

see i am one of those kids that have to sit the bench because you cant get a grip on your juvenile delinquents! show better parenting skills. Do whats right, don't slap them on the wrist and then let them play! Take what they love to do AWAY! FIND SOMETHING FOR THEM TO DO!other than give our school a bad name! GCSC i love the idea! great job for making it FAIR!

*keep your delinquents at home parents!..*

-- Posted by ghsstudednt on Tue, Jul 22, 2008, at 11:12 AM


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