Woods Edge opposes transportation facility

Tuesday, November 24, 2015

The Greencastle Community School Corporation held a preemptive community meeting Monday to discuss with residents of The Woods Edge subdivision the potential impact a nearby transportation facility may have on the east-side neighborhood.

Board President Denise Sigworth kicked off the meeting by introducing herself, the board members and the details of the potential $1.9 million purchase.

"How did we get here?" Sigworth asked to start the meeting. "We have been looking for property for about the last two years. In 2013, the board approved the use of an architect to start planning a new school bus transportation facility.

"By state law, the school system can only make an offer on a property that is the average of two appraisals," Sigworth added, going on to say that the potential use of a property around the current Vine Street location was nixed due to the average of the two appraisals being too high.

Other properties have been considered and thoroughly investigated, Sigworth said. Up to 10 locations were eyed with only one meeting all of the criteria; it was determined by various architects and the city council that the facility be at least six acres in size, be located within city limits, have ease of access with minimal railroad interference and contain an operations center.

The 30-acre property east of Woods Edge meets all of the criteria, but several questions were raised by neighborhood residents, who received personal invitations to Monday's meeting.

Property value, an increase in traffic, noise and air pollution, a possible over-purchase and tax rates were cited by many.

However, the tax rates will not be affected, says Superintendent Dawn Puckett.

"The funding is fully there in the debt service (and) by Indiana law we are limited on what we can pay or spend on activities like this," Puckett said. "We certainly wouldn't make any sort of decision to do anything that would, in any way, impact the tax rate. '$2 million' is the number the board is looking at that can maintain all of those factors -- we can pay for it out of our current funding."

Puckett added that with no additional tax burden, no referendum is required.

However, due to the overwhelming negative response from the community, the school board will have much to consider before moving forward with a purchase.

The next step for the board will be to submit a formal appeal to the Board of Zoning Appeals to acquire the "special exception" status necessary for building in a residentially-zoned area. The city council is not part of the process.

The next BZA meeting to take place will be on Jan. 5, 2016 due to a December cancellation.

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  • I will fully admit I am not a appraiser but I cannot believe that the 30 acres appraised for 63,333.00 a acre. Something is WRONG with those figures to say the least. Second where they are wanting to put the Bus Facility has only 2 ways to get the buses on the road, either the four way stop sign by the Middle School or cutting down Martinsville to Bloomington. Both stop sign areas are already traffic tie ups at certain times of the day. If they put the Bus Barn where they are saying the Southern Highway will be at a stand still and most likely require the Police to be there morning and afternoons stopping all traffic till all buses get onto the road. Avon is in a bad location and there they have the Police flagging stopping all traffic on SR267 twice a day.

    -- Posted by Trying hard on Wed, Nov 25, 2015, at 8:50 AM
  • To Trying Hard; simply to inform you, the total they quoted was $2,000,000 for the property and the construction of the entire facility as their plan now states. I was assured that the house I was buying here was built in the first stage of 3 home neighborhood sections, and that Wood's Edge would soon be a beautiful housing area, safe for my children and grandchildren. I am to be affected by this nearby development, both with heavy traffic and noise of engines running all night to prevent freezing. And no matter what the people trying to force it upon us say, they ALWAYS go over-budget, and have not even included the road rebuilding costs that will have to occur immediately after they start running the many busses down one street, out and back, twice a day. Then this will force the added cost of a traffic light to replace the 4 way stop sign at Veterans Highway and Zinc Mill Rd. And land seized from the homeowners to build sidewalks lining those busier streets, and to widen the road. And those costs WILL raise our taxes, as we locals have to pay for the results of their bad decisions. A suggestion was made for the Corporation to consider the road frontage farmland just east of the Wal-mart store, where the busses would use the existing traffic light. Also a suggestion was made for them to consider 1/2 mile east, the next crossroad of Veterans Memorial Highway (240), So. County Rd. 100 E., as it is the road between Walmart Distribution Center and Heartland Automotive, as it would not effect local traffic and has mostly been improved and used for heavy truck traffic. The property just south of Walmart Distribution has been for sale for many years, at a much lower price and many more acres for future use by our Police, Fire, and City Services, which have needed to grow and will soon because of the new expansion of housing we are seeing in the area. Indianapolis workers and homebuilders are moving this way, and we must be prepared for the changes when they come soon, by pre-assigning a large piece of land where there will be a secure facility for all of the City's future needs, not just piecemeal purchases for a small growth of only one County service. The School Board did not consider the taxpayers in the past with their approval of Dr.Green's multi-million dollar suggestion to add $20,000 to the "Retirement" bonus to teachers and administrators, just after the newspaper had told of his choosing a new position with a school system in another state. When they are not retiring, just moving away to other employment or just quitting and some even coming back to work immediately in the same schools or positions they were in. And this is another School Board with too much power and control over wasting our hard-earned tax money, which will not even consider the future costs of it's actions.

    -- Posted by alfr1 on Wed, Nov 25, 2015, at 3:00 PM
  • Alfri- I hear what you are saying and I can agree with you- However I will admit I did not attend the meeting so I am only going by what the Banner article states and it uses the word "purchase" not "project" so are they wanting to pay 1.9 million for the land? If that is for the total project then I challenge GCSC to print the land purchase price.

    -- Posted by Trying hard on Wed, Nov 25, 2015, at 3:44 PM
  • I believe they opened the door for public knowledge regarding the pricing on the land as well as the project when they quoted the 1.9 million price tag in n open meeting

    -- Posted by canttakeitanymore on Wed, Nov 25, 2015, at 3:55 PM
  • Does the city of greencastle already own several acres out by walmart and the airport? At least thats what beacon shows

    -- Posted by canttakeitanymore on Wed, Nov 25, 2015, at 4:30 PM
  • Why not use the so called "Dinosaur" that was built for industry to move into, that is on Fillmore road, west of the T? That should still be in the city perimeters, and there is a large building already there.

    -- Posted by chicken on Thu, Nov 26, 2015, at 10:02 AM
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