Message is clear, new Elks Club sign doesn’t meet letter of the law

Thursday, December 5, 2019
The illuminated sign outside the Greencastle Elks Club at 202 S. Indiana St. still delivers its lighted yuletide message Tuesday evening following the Greencastle Zoning Board’s denial of its use in the Central Business District.
Banner Graphic/Eric Bernsee

Since late August, an illuminated sign outside the Greencastle Elks Club has been advertising upcoming dinners, Halloween events and most recently the impending arrival of Santa Claus.

But the Greencastle Board of Zoning Appeals pulled the plug on the computerized lighted sign Tuesday night, ruling that by ordinance such signage is not permitted in the Central Business District, of which the Elks Club is a part.

Surrounded by the Greencastle fire station, First Christian Church and a couple of apartments, the Elks Club wouldn’t seem to really be part of the Central Business District, as noted by Nancy Wells, representing the Elks during the hour-long discussion at City Hall. However, the lodge also sits only a block away from the Inn at DePauw and half-a-block from Ashley Square Cinemas.

Wells admitted that Elks Club officials did not realize they were in violation of zoning laws when they replaced the interior of their old wooden sign with a computer-run version that could scroll, flash and even change colors.

“It never crossed my mind that we needed a permit,” admitted Wells, a former Putnam County Plan Commission member herself.

She acknowledged that when the sign -- which was donated by an Elks member who has recently passed away -- was first installed, it was like a new toy and was “very intrusive” as it was initially extremely bright and remained illuminated 24 hours a day.

That brought a number of complaint calls to City Hall, City Attorney Laurie Hardwick advised.

“It was very bright when we started it,” Wells said. “It took us about two weeks to get used to how it operates.”

After that first blush, the lodge toned it down, Wells said, turning it off at 11 p.m. and ending the scrolling. It has recently operated with one message that changes weekly. The current message is meant to advise the public of Santa’s arrival at the lodge on Dec. 15.

But with the Elks Lodge located not only in the Central Business (CB) zoning district but also within the historic district downtown, lighted signs with flashing and scrolling options are not permissible by ordinance.

“We’ve had other requests from downtown businesses and have denied them because it’s not in our code,” City Attorney Hardwick noted. “We absolutely didn’t allow anything like that during the Stellar Grant.”

The standards in place have been on the books since 2002, City Planner Scott Zimmerman said, noting that without them, “Starbucks could have had its traditional interior lighted sign.”

Main Street Greencastle Director Mike Richmond, meanwhile, was in the audience “simply to show our support for the ordinance as written.”

He cited “potential negative consequences” when the ordinance is deviated from, noting that Main Street has “worked to create a classic atmosphere within the downtown district.”

The Elks’ petition was for a development standards variance to suspend the portion of the ordinance prohibiting internally illuminated/animated signs in the CB District.

Zimmerman’s planning staff report recommended denial of the request, citing that “use and value of the area adjacent to the property included in the variance will be affected in a substantially adverse manner, in that it provides a sign use not otherwise permitted to other properties for business and event promotion.”

Wells acknowledged that the sign does not meet the pure letter of the law, but reminded BZA members that times are changing.

“This is almost 2020,” she said, “and it seems a little outdated that we can’t do something electronically to change our sign.”

The BZA seemed hesitant to deny the variance request. John Phillips, an alternate BZA member sitting in for Margaret Kenton, suggested the sign might be grandfathered in since it was using the same base as the old sign and occupying the same space.

Zimmerman said that wasn’t possible.

“I personally don’t have a problem with what you’re doing,” BZA Chairman Wayne Lewis said, noting that a downtown bank drive-through flashes “closed, closed, closed” signs above its individual lanes all night long.

However, those lights are, in fact, grandfathered in under the 2002 ordinance, Hardwick responded.

“I understand the frustration of Main Street,” Lewis continued, “but change is going to happen, and it’s coming fast.”

Nonetheless anything relative to such possible change is currently not addressed in the ordinance.

“It’s not whether or not the board likes it or doesn’t like it,” the city attorney pointed out, stressing it was all about meeting the existing criteria of the ordinance.

In the end, Phillips made a motion to deny the request, noting it “seems pretty clear” from the ordinance and Main Street comments that the Elks sign does not meet current criteria.

In seconding that motion, Doug Wokoun, who said in driving past the area in question numerous times a week, he’s never been bothered by the sign.

Wokoun offered “a strong recommendation” for Wells and the Elks to take the matter to the City Plan Commission for a possible rezoning or change in the zoning statute as written.

The motion for denial passed 3-0 with Lewis adding his nay vote to those of Phillips and Wokoun.

“Put me on their (Plan Commission) agenda,” Wells told Zimmerman immediately after the BZA denial.

In the evening’s only other business, the BZA unanimously granted a special exception to DePauw University to allow a medical center within the University (UN) District.

The university is moving its health center, which serves students, faculty, staff, administration members and their families, to the Lilly Center, located at 1 E. Olive St. It is not available to the public.

DPU spokesman Rob Harper said the medical center will encompass the old auxiliary gym and two classrooms on the south end of the second floor of the Lilly Center.

The health center had been located at Hogate Hall. The move into the Lilly Center represents a more central campus location, Harper noted, adding that the site comes with better access to adequate parking than the Hogate location offered.

Joining Chairman Lewis for the 90-minute BZA meeting at City Hall were Wokoun and alternate member Phillips. Absent were Brian Cox, Andrew Ranck and Margaret Kenton.

The Zoning Board’s next regularly meeting is scheduled for 6 p.m. Tuesday, Jan. 7 at City Hall.

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  • Ridiculous code.

    -- Posted by kbmom on Fri, Dec 6, 2019, at 11:32 AM
  • Why have a BZA if your reason is ‘because it’s not in the code’. That’s the point of a BZA to apply common sense reasoning at times so we can all function. Absurd they are making this group remove the sign.

    -- Posted by taylortwp on Fri, Dec 6, 2019, at 12:40 PM
  • Same reasoning could have applied to denying Depauw’s request however that sailed through of course

    -- Posted by taylortwp on Fri, Dec 6, 2019, at 12:44 PM
  • *

    Please sit down, everyone... I am about to stun you all! :)

    My initial reaction was very similar to Cloverman's thought process until I gave a bit more consideration.

    The DePauw comparison: Apples and Oranges.

    And yes, it does hurt just a little...lol.

    The DePauw exception is all within the University District and is just moving a medical clinic operation. You are unlikely to get any complaints or even have anyone notice a difference.

    The Elks club is in a different zoning area, specifically in the Historic Business District and Historic districts have very tight regulations for a reason... to keep them looking historic. And you aren't going to look very historic with large electronic signs.

    This will certainly draw complaints...hence the need for (and subsequent denial of) zoning appeals. Each side (appellant & anyone against the appeal) gets to present their case. In this case, the Elks club wasn't convincing enough.

    And as stated in the article, the Elks club is free to work on changing the rules so that they are in compliance.

    Until then - turn off the sign.

    As for the code being ridiculous...perhaps it is. However, local government only works as well as those who participate in it. While it may not be possible to go to all the meetings, it is possible to send a letter to the government, send an email, politely call them and make your feelings known on a particular issue, or even write an editorial and submit it to the BG.

    -- Posted by dreadpirateroberts on Fri, Dec 6, 2019, at 4:00 PM
  • I guess what frustrates me the most is that the article stated the members of the BZA all pretty much felt like it was a non issue and would have granted a variance which is totally fine. Instead the town attorney fights their wishes and other quasi government people fight it as well. 99% of the population could care less about the historic districts etc. Some pompous self appointed busy body with ample free time has clearly raised heck about it. I will stick with my original opinion, absurd.

    -- Posted by taylortwp on Fri, Dec 6, 2019, at 7:00 PM
  • If I'm reading this right, the board has 6 members, 4 of whom did not attend. So they bring in an alternate in order to have 3 members. Wouldn't they need 4 to have a majority vote?

    -- Posted by Ben Dover on Fri, Dec 6, 2019, at 9:14 PM
  • Personally I don't see a problem , particularly where the sign is located. I mean it's facing the 24 hour Fire Station. However with that said if your grant a variance for the Elks then who else will want one? I know Old National is planning a new building and I would like to see a programable sign with the temperature and possibly community announcements. Maybe it is time for our city leaders to step up and address the issue. I do have to add that I believe if a person accepts an appointment to a "board" then they should make every effort to attend the meetings. Here we have only 3 and one of those was a substitute, and this isn't the only board this happens to , just look at the Park Board.

    -- Posted by Workingthesoil on Fri, Dec 6, 2019, at 9:51 PM
  • That sign was indeed incredibly annoying and far too bright.

    -- Posted by techphcy on Sat, Dec 7, 2019, at 9:11 PM
  • Maybe it was after they "toned" it down but we were walking by there and it didn't seem too bright at all.

    -- Posted by Workingthesoil on Sun, Dec 8, 2019, at 8:21 AM
  • Are sure this wasn't Cloverdale instead? You need a permit for this! You can't do that! Sounds like that to me........I also agree-ABSURD

    -- Posted by putnamcountyproud on Mon, Dec 9, 2019, at 12:34 PM
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