Several downtown parking changes in the works for city

Monday, January 18, 2021
Two tractor-trailers meeting on Washington Street just east of Indiana Street in Greencastle underscore the tight quarters in the area. The City Council hopes to alleviate this problem by eliminating two parking spaces on the north side of Washington.
Banner Graphic/ERIC BERNSEE

A number of parking changes are in progress for downtown Greencastle, the City Council learned at its recent January meeting.

The parking issue arose after Councilman Dave Murray asked City Attorney Laurie Hardwick if she could bring an amended parking ordinance to the February meeting for the Council’s scrutiny.

That amended ordinance would include, as Murray has previously suggested, removing one or two spaces along the north side of Washington Street in front of the current Old National Bank location at the Indiana Street end of the block.

The city is also considering closing the alley entrance in the middle of the block to regain one space, Mayor Bill Dory told the Banner Graphic.

“We’ve already had one person get hit trying to make their way across Washington Street between ONB and Starbucks,” Murray pointed out, “and people sit there (westbound at the stoplight) and wait and wait for somebody to turn left, and then the light changes and trucks are going through there.”

Removing a couple of parking spaces along the north side of the street would allow traffic to flow past the left-turn artists.

Mayor Dory interjected that he has a couple more changes in mind to add that amended ordinance.

“At the corner of Walnut and Vine,” he said, “the handicapped space is right at the corner and the Fire Department would like to pull that back a little bit and give themselves a little more turning radius.

“The other thing we talked about,” the mayor continued, “was flipping the parking (on Walnut Street) in the block between Indiana and Jackson from the north side of the street to the south side of the street. We can get twice as many spaces along there and add three of four more to the downtown inventory.”

Meanwhile, City Attorney Hardwick said that a request has been made to consider a change at the Vine Street end of Washington Street where cars parked to the curb on the south side of Washington make for visibility issues for drivers turning out of Vine Street.

“There’s a visibility issue at the corner where Books Plus used to be,” she said of the building owned by Lester and Judy Wilson.

Councilman Murray readily agreed.

“If there’s cars all along that side, including that last space,” Murray said, “and you’re trying to come from Mark Hammer’s office (on Vine Street) to turn left onto Washington Street, it is really hard to see, so I think that’s a great idea.”

Mayor Dory noted that he had received several complaints about that intersection when a large van was regularly parked along Washington Street.

In short, these are the parking changes being considered downtown:

• Washington Street, along Old National Bank – Remove one or two spaces at the Indiana Street end of the block. Possibly close the alley entrance to regain one space.

• Washington Street, from Indiana to Vine south side – Possibly remove one space at the Vine Street end of the block for better sight distance.

• Walnut Street, from Indiana to Vine north side – Remove one regular parking space at the west end of the block, slide the handicapped space one block east. This is to provide better turning radius for fire trucks.

• Walnut Street, from Indiana to Jackson – Move parking from the north side of the street to the south side. This would add 3-5 spaces of on-street parking on Walnut, west of Indiana. Would still allow for a loading zone on the north side of the street.

Previously, the city moved the two reserved fire department spaces from Indiana to Poplar to open up the two spaces along BreadWorks, the mayor noted. The city also added the two 10-minute pick-up spaces on the north and east sides of the square.

All the changes are under final review, Mayor Dory said.

If the ordinance does come before the City Council at its Feb. 12 meeting (7 p.m., City Hall), it could be passed on first reading then and adopted on second and final reading at the March Council session.

In another parking-related matter, Councilman Murray asked about the status of the parking lot proposed for the northeast corner of Indiana and Columbia streets, a site the city acquired from Perry Wainman after he purchased it and razed a dilapidated house.

The mayor said architects are finishing up plans for the site and city officials have had some conversations with the adjacent property owner to see if there was interest in a joint venture.

The situation will be resolved, “hopefully soon,” Mayor Dory added.

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  • Would parking downtown be an issue if the city had not have added those bump-outs on the curb? I have found myself "gunning it" onto Washington St. and pray I don't get hit due to lack of visibility. While they may be aesthetically pleasing, those "bump-outs" were not a good choice over the safety of motorists.

    -- Posted by putcoresident84 on Mon, Jan 18, 2021, at 10:08 PM
  • Apparently the council didn't discuss the lack of access to their own meeting minutes despite the public outcry recently in the BG comments. So I was pleasantly surprised to see the minutes have been posted, at least through November 2020. But when I try to access the City Code, 10 of the 11 thumbnails return an error message, and the updates end in 2010. Hope to see those corrected soon.

    -- Posted by Ben Dover on Tue, Jan 19, 2021, at 8:51 AM
  • Wasn’t westbound Washington marked No Left Turn onto southbound Indiana for years? If it is, why are drivers not being cited for breaking the existing law instead of inconveniencing the rest of us by removing more spaces? If not, why was the law changed to allow behavior that clearly causes dangerous traffic problems?

    -- Posted by techphcy on Tue, Jan 19, 2021, at 3:42 PM
  • The left turns are no longer prohibited. Don't know why but may be an INDOT decision since it is US 231.

    -- Posted by Geologist on Tue, Jan 19, 2021, at 4:22 PM
  • How about the west side of Vine St north of Washington. The new bank building isn’t open yet and customers are already parking there and finding out there not open yet.

    -- Posted by lcwvrod on Tue, Jan 19, 2021, at 11:32 PM
  • Why take away from the north side. People need to do there banking. Now they can still park on the south side and have to cross the street to do their banking. Why not take away from the south side in front of Starbucks.

    -- Posted by Keepyaguessin on Wed, Jan 20, 2021, at 8:08 AM
  • More important question is when we're going to get a 231 bypass built. Remove through / truck traffic and this problem goes away.

    -- Posted by hometownboy on Wed, Jan 20, 2021, at 3:50 PM
  • That just became much more difficult

    -- Posted by beg on Wed, Jan 20, 2021, at 4:17 PM
  • Building a by-pass around Greencastle was talked about in the 70's. I think the cost was the deciding factor.

    Which would be more cost-effective: build a by-pass or move downtown Greencastle?

    Just wondering.

    -- Posted by donantonio on Wed, Jan 20, 2021, at 8:36 PM
  • Don Antonio,

    It may have been cost prohibitive in the 70's but that was 50 years ago. I bet with today's traffic patterns the conclusion would be different.

    -- Posted by hometownboy on Thu, Jan 21, 2021, at 8:07 AM
  • There have been multiple studies done on a 231 bypass. Some of the reporting is still available here on the BG website. The last one I remember recommended deviating from the current roadway at CR 800 S and going directly north through the factory area, similar to what Lafayette did.

    -- Posted by techphcy on Thu, Jan 21, 2021, at 8:41 AM
  • I understand the legit concerns and inconveniences but are they so big that we must take land from private ownership, land that will now become concrete, drastically alter landscape, add to climate change, etc?

    I say make it a toll road!!!

    -- Posted by beg on Thu, Jan 21, 2021, at 9:38 AM
  • There was a study in the 90s or early 2000s where they proposed numerous possible routes. The favored route crossed the Big Walnut creek upstream of the city's municipal water wells and caused a huge uproar that essentially killed it.

    -- Posted by Geologist on Thu, Jan 21, 2021, at 2:05 PM
  • Everybody wants it but nobody wants it anywhere near their own property.

    -- Posted by unbiased on Thu, Jan 21, 2021, at 7:49 PM
  • *

    If memory serves - originally, the purpose of Veterans Highway was to reroute truck traffic around town to the west and then north back onto US 231.

    Only DePauw didn't like that so it fell by the wayside.

    Of course this would be the smartest, and cheapest way to run truck traffic.

    But again, as DePauw will not accept it, its not going to go anywhere.

    -- Posted by dreadpirateroberts on Fri, Jan 22, 2021, at 10:04 AM
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