Farm Bureau Inc. expresses concern over county roads

Monday, August 2, 2021

The county’s chief advocacy group for farmers is expressing concern over the state of local county roads.

On Monday, Putnam County Farm Bureau Inc. officers Ray Poynter Jr. and Steve Cash, along with other local farmers, attended the Putnam County Commissioners meeting to express their concerns.

Poynter outlined concerns that include tree overgrowth, lack of mowing, the depth of ditches and the width of roads.

Poynter, who owns a farm in Clinton Township, noted that in some places two passenger vehicles can’t pass one another, let alone what happens if a large piece of agricultural equipment were involved.

“Somebody’s going to have to back up,” he said. “We’re just here to try and come up with a solution. There are a lot of roads in Putnam County, I know that.”

Garrett Thompson added to this.

“When a passenger car’s gotta get off and can’t get off, something’s gotta give,” Thompson said. “Yeah, equipment’s getting bigger, but I think as a county we have to accommodate for that.”

Cash said he had been contacted by Terry Clifford, who drives a school bus for North Putnam, who said that they can take a brand new bus out and have scratches on it from overgrown trees on the first return trip.

“Do we not have roadside mowers and mowers that trim the trees? Why aren’t we using them?” asked Dan Fry, who was also in attendance with the group.

Commissioner Rick Woodall addressed some of these concerns. He noted that the county is working on buying a new mower, as the two old models currently in its possession are in disrepair.

“It absolutely stinks,” Woodall said. “I understand because I drive those county roads every day.”

Additionally, the Putnam County Highway Department has had trouble hiring and retaining employees.

“Part of it is because of manpower and part of it is because of equipment that just won’t run,” Woodall said.

The department has more recently been putting two guys on mowers part time, but that only takes away from the crews working on road surfacing.

County Highway Supervisor Mike Ricketts also explained that the new mower that the county needs comes with a price tag of $130,000.

Thompson asked if they had looked into outsourcing the mowing.

“It might be cheaper than buying a mower and that takes care of an employee or two employees you don’t have,” Thompson said.

While no solution came of Monday’s discussion, it hope seemed to be that it would open a dialogue between the county and Farm Bureau about possible solutions.

“As far as Putnam County Farm Bureau, we want to help in any way we can,” Poynter said.

Later in the meeting, Ricketts also gave some updates on other highway issues.

Among these, Bridge 172 on Poland Road may now take until at least the end of August to complete. He noted that this is really not the fault of those doing the deck work on the bridge, but the degree of damage to the structure.

“They’re trying to do it right and I think it’s worse than what they thought,” Ricketts said.

He added that this is the problem with federal aid projects, the county signs on for them but then the work isn’t performed for another five years.

Ricketts also noted that the extra time taken on the bridge will likely delay resurfacing work on two roads leading to the Cagles Mill Lake dam until next year, as there is limited access while the bridge is out.

One other federal aid project, Bridge 275 over CSX Railroad on Saddle Club Road, is inching closer to work in 2022.

Final drawings and cost estimate will be due soon, with letting set for either October or December.

The next meeting of the Putnam County Commissioners is set for Monday, Aug. 16 at 9 a.m. on the first floor of the Putnam County Courthouse.

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  • So the two older mowers are in disrepair, can they not be fixed? How are the workers spending their time? ".. no solution came of Monday’s discussion .." When will the commissioners realize we have a dysfunctional highway department?

    -- Posted by Ben Dover on Tue, Aug 3, 2021, at 10:49 AM
  • Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah! And if you fail to pay your property taxes, you know what happens there! What happens to all the EDIT tax we're paying?? Where is it going??

    -- Posted by jake71 on Tue, Aug 3, 2021, at 1:20 PM
  • There are many concerns by residents of Putnam County when it comes to the highway department...my suggestion is to let go of Ricketts. Sometimes a good "house cleaning" is all that is needed. To add to the list of projects the county has or will complete, what about "West Walnut", the road was just repaved and is very nice however the bridge at CR 450 W is is major disrepair. Seems that the county is more concerned about the bridge at Saddle Club, partly due to 3 Fat Labs and their financial contribution to the county? I am just making assumptions and correct me if I am wrong, but money talks in this county and taxpayers have no voice. Sad.

    -- Posted by putcoresident84 on Tue, Aug 3, 2021, at 4:40 PM
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    “As far as Putnam County Farm Bureau, we want to help in any way we can,” Poynter said.

    Ummmm. Buy the mower and donate it to the county? Ain't nothing stopping Farm Bureau from doing just that.

    But Putcoresident84 nailed it.

    Money. And the love of it.

    Some might even say its the root of the problem.

    -- Posted by dreadpirateroberts on Tue, Aug 3, 2021, at 7:11 PM
  • I've been driving on these county roads for 40 years. Mr. Ricketts is the latest bandaid specialist. Handing out patches whenever the complaint gets loud enough. He is doing exactly what he is told. Save and scrimp to get by. It's expensive to build and maintain our roads and bridges. I get it. At some point we need a master plan with proper execution of the plan. I don't think Mr. Ricketts is capable. I'm not sure if the taxpayers are ready for the price.

    -- Posted by H_lake34 on Tue, Aug 3, 2021, at 8:00 PM
  • So what are taxpayers in this county supposed to do to get our roads repaired, and not just to be put on some imaginary "to do list" in hopes that people will stop demanding their roads be fixed? And yes, I live in rural Putnam County and drive these awful roads everyday. With that being said just because I live in the country doesn't mean that I should put up with the awful conditions of our roads! Who else has "bob and weave" pattern to drive down their road to avoid hitting potholes or God forbid you meet another car on the road and are forced to drive in the trees?

    -- Posted by putcoresident84 on Tue, Aug 3, 2021, at 10:07 PM
  • Here in the south 1/3 of the county, we finally got a bunch of our roads redone in the past decade. My own (major) road had never been redone in 40 years, and now it’s nice and smooth. It’s awful that we have to wait half a lifetime to get a road paved, but I will appreciate it while it lasts.

    Now about those ditches…

    -- Posted by techphcy on Wed, Aug 4, 2021, at 1:15 PM
  • You’ve got 3 options, here they are (in no particular order): privatize the roads and pay tolls to travel, push for a tax to get better roads, or keep the status quo.

    -- Posted by Koios on Wed, Aug 4, 2021, at 3:04 PM
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    Chip and seal for the roads?

    Or maybe Farm Bureau would like to start including farm vehicles into the road tax?

    After all, they are on the roads as well and it is more the heavy weight of farm vehicles (tractors, semi-tractors and trailers) than the daily amount of traffic that creates potholes.

    Or maybe Farm Bureau doesn't really mean that they would love to help in any way they can... they just want to sound like they care while they advocate for the continued special exceptions they enjoy.

    -- Posted by dreadpirateroberts on Wed, Aug 4, 2021, at 6:51 PM
  • ^ that would be a reasonable start to fixing the problem, however there’s no way that’s going to happen, unfortunately. I think we both know why.

    -- Posted by Koios on Wed, Aug 4, 2021, at 7:10 PM
  • Regarding the 2 mowers in disrepair... there is apparently one mower that works. There was a county employee mowing weeds on my road in southwestern Putnam county last Thursday. Unless it broke down after that day, and before the meeting, someone wasn't being honest about the condition of all the mowers.

    -- Posted by rlsvjoe5612 on Wed, Aug 4, 2021, at 8:49 PM
  • First off for the comments: Putnam Co. Farm Bureau Inc. only has a $20,000 budget for the year while a mower was quoted at $130,000. Farmers large machinery has less compaction than your car with its large tires or tracks. The semi's are a must simply to get product to market. Who do you think pays the majority of the property taxes in the county paying for most of the school construction and everything else covered by property taxes. Farmers may have a lot of assets but they are not liquid any more than the value of your home. We are looking for solutions not an ability to throw stones at anyone.

    -- Posted by spcash on Thu, Aug 5, 2021, at 12:08 PM
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    spcash -

    Farm Bureau is a statewide organization with over a quarter of a million members and a fair amount of pull in state and many local governments. Then add in the fact that there are Farm Bureaus in several states.

    Thats a lot of resources and a great big network. Does no one out there have a used mower for sale?

    Why does it have to a be a brand new $130,000 mower?

    See where I am going?

    There are lots of possibilities.

    I never advocated for getting rid of semi's or tractors, I advocated for farmers to pay taxes on those tractors and semi's since they are on the road the same as the non-farmer cars and trucks.

    As for the property taxes - Individually, not farmers. Commercial/non-agricultural real estate holders pay more as a rate... therefore they pay more when the farmer is a business just the same as them.

    I am not throwing stones. My "attack" is simply me asking questions and sharing my thoughts.

    I found the offer of assistance worthy of comment given what I have explained here and previously.

    -- Posted by dreadpirateroberts on Thu, Aug 5, 2021, at 7:49 PM
  • Somehow one of those mowers got fixed in a hurry after this article came out. Manhattan Road, which had weeds 6 feet tall on the roadsides, was mowed as of Wednesday.

    -- Posted by Ben Dover on Fri, Aug 6, 2021, at 8:41 AM
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