Inmate dies at PCJ

From what I know the Putnam County Jail will not despense pharacuticles unless they are authorised by the jail doctor.Had he even been allowed to see the jail dr.?

Pharacuticles? Is that the new drug that does your nails for you while you sleep?

Inmates are treated like dogs at the PCJ. These officers don't give a crap about them.

I agree with 1stamendment they dont giv e you your meds and treat them like dogs. I actually think most dogs are treated better than these inmates. If he had high blood pressure he should have been on meds, but I bet he wasnt being given them. If this is found ro be true, who will be held accountable? The sherriff, the jail, the county? cause someone could be sued.

How does a 31 year old jusy die in their sleep. Another problem in PUTNAM COUNTY. Aren't these inmates suppose to be checked on even during the night? How sad is this jail system.

Dogs should be treated better then inmates! Inmates have more luxeries then the hard working man!!! Give it a rest!

Even if they do rounds every hour, how were they to know he was dead? Do you expect them to wake everyone every hour to make sure they are alive?

It is always a terrible thing to see someone so young pass and i offer my condolences to the family, they are always the ones that are left to grieve. On the other hand, don't be pointing fingers until you know what exactly happened. It doesn't sound like this guy was a very respectable citizen with his past history. Any time there are drugs involved and a past like his, you never know what will have happen down the road. It sounds like he chose to have a future of nothing but bad things in his life, and it looks like it may have caught up with him.

First of all to SoupSandwich and clgruener, I am very glad your families are perfect (at spelling, no arrests, etc.). Inmates are humans and some have just made mistakes in their lives. And to inform you, the inmates at PCJ DO NOT have more luxuries (and I am not commenting on your spelling, because I am not like that :-). They DO NOT let you see the Dr. but have a nurse that sometimes will see you and prescribe meds, which she should not. They don't care about the inmates, but boy they will sure get all the free work out of them, so that is paying for their stay. No one should have to die in jail because they don't have meds properly dispensed. I hope his family has the jail investigated so this won't happen again. And by the way PCJ, DON'T prescribe Thorazine to everyone that needs bi-polar meds!!!

Can't we wait to see what he died of before we start blaming?

As a former employee of the jail, and someone who still has friends working there...there is nothing that could have been done to prevent this. I know for a fact they check on inmates every hour throughout the night...but most inmates sleep with blankets over their heads. Also, if you are just looking at them it is hard to tell if they are breathing or not. And i know the inmates wouldn't want to be woke up every hour to make sure they are breathing..it's hard enough to sleep in the jail as it is. As far as them being treated like dogs...their food isn't that bad (most of the employees eat it also), and they get cable (for free)! If you ask them they will tell you they get treated alot better in PCJ, then most of the places they have been...

Great job PCJ!!! Take a few more DEADbeats off our tax payroll. Prisoners have it way to easy. They are in jail for a reason and should not be treated like they are on vacation with all expenses paid.

I am the mother of David Osborne one year old son. I don't think some of you fully understand the matter at hand. So let

me set the record straight. I have been in contact with Mr. Osborne throughout his whole stay at that **** hole. I have pages and pages of letters from him telling me about how badly he has been treated. From being forced to sleep on the jail floor for over a month. No bed, no mat, no blanket. The bare concrete. I have written letters, emails and made many phone calls regarding the matter in which has been treated. NO ONE WOULD HELP!! I have proof of how bad the PCJ is. They comtinuely denied him medical treatment. No one cared. I have documentation dating back as far as January. Due to the fact that no one cared now my son has to grow up, never knowing his dad. I thought you were innocent until proven guilty. There is no way to know that... BECAUSE HE IS DEAD.. Is this what Putnam County calls justice? Now my son has no father and I am determined to find out why? So for the sake of PCJ David Eugene Osborne better had died from natural causes because I will use every breathe in my body to seek TRUE JUSTICE for his death. That is my word.

These inmates are locked down in cell blocks. These officers don't do anything but walk through the cells once every couple hours. These inmates are feed three meals a day and the trays are delivered by the trustees not the lazy CO's. They don't allow for inmates to take thier proper meds which several inmates suffer. Their nurse is a LPN which in my opinion isn't even qualified to deal with some of the medical issues the jail deals with. They need to get a RN who can better handle these issues. A working man has his freedom and the inmates lost theirs so how is that a luxery clgruener???

If this individual was such a great 'daddy', why all the drug arrests, and long record? The health issue was probably 99% HIS fault, not the county jail. His health is HIS responsibily, not the county. Stay outta jail- take care of your health, stay OFF drugs & this just may not happen to you.... think about that! PCJ, keep doing what you are doing.

well the way i look at it, it saves the taxpayers some money

I agree that most county jails maynot medicate people like they should be, but his child would've probably known his dad only by jail visits and that's no life for a child. According to my math his "daddy" had been locked up the entire time that child's had a breath. I just wonder if he took care of his health trouble before he got arrested? When you do hard drugs it has long term effects and changes your normal body vessels and all that so you don't always no what will happen. If the jail did something wrong, I'm sure the state will find out and they will have to answer for it but it's unfair everyone blaming them before they even know what happend

To the family of David Osborne... Take this matter all the way and get JUSTICE for this man.... a few mistakes means he and everyone else on this easrth is human... PCJ has gotten away with way to much and needs to be investigated.... To all of you who have made crazy- rude and down right nasty messages on here better look at themselves in the mirror because you are not worthy of being called Christians. God forgives so what is you excuse for ignorance! It is also easier to see other peoples faults and open your mouths but truly you are worse than anyone you could comment on because if the truth be known this man, David Osborne might have made mistakes but I could bet you he didn't disrespect people in the way you have in these comments you have made. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!!!!!!

to 1stamendrights: Inmates lost their rights when they commited a crime. I take it you are one of the inmates that think that you should be treated just like everyone else when you are locked up for doing a crime. A jail is supposed to be as hard on the inmate as possible, this way it makes the inmate NOT want to come back. My brother is in and out of jail all the time, he likes it and the main reason is he gets 3 meals a day, has a cot and does not have to work, gets recess and watches tv. I wish they would bring back chain gangs. I think inmates should be treated like sh!t. Make them work hard, no recess or play time, and sleep on the floor. Make it so THEY DO NOT WANT TO COME BACK.

I'm tired of people making poor decisions in their life and then blame others when things go wrong. Your first thought is "who can we sue?" It's too bad he died in jail but he made the poor decisions that landed him there. You reap what you sow!! I don't believe PCJ is any worse than any other jail around the country. I wish we had the sheriff from Arizona in every jail! Prisoners are just that, prisoners, and the jail isn't the Ritz Carlton.

I see a lot of good points here,i'd like to add one,if you don't like the conditions in PCJ,DON"T GO THERE!Be a proper citizen,get a LEGAL job,support your offspring and take care of your family.P.S.Banner,have we learned the OFFICAL cause of death yet?

To Ms. Too Much - My heart goes out to your little one, and your family's loss. But I am thinking, given Mr. Osborne's record thus far, chances of your son ever really getting to know his dad were slim to none with his track record. And, even if he hadn't been caught, do you really want your one year old child around someone who does the things he does, until fully rehabilitated? As a mother, I assume you would put the best interest of your child first. Kudos to you for being a single mom and I hope that you are able to raise that child, bringing him/her up the right way and reserve the viscious cycle.

Let's see... how can I say this without getting blasted?

Just obey the laws of society and you probably won't go to jail.

MsTooMuch: If it walks like a criminal and talks like a criminal, it probably is a criminal. History repeats itself (his past record). How many times does he have to be proven guilty to prove he's guilty at the crimes he commits? As for your son, ever heard the expression "like father, like son"? There's hope for your son.

You all must remember that this jail is just that it is a jail. These people are not inmates in a prison, they are in a holding pattern for future court hearings ect. And foremost something that we must all remember, these people are innocent until proven guilty by the courts. Most of them do not carry out their sentences there or if they do they are not long term. PCJ is a big holding cell and they treat these people like dirt. Sleeping on the floor, no blanket or just one that is thin and it is very cold in there. Plus charge them for everything. Do you know they do not even serve coffee. They must pay for their own. If they can get someone to contribute to their "account". They over-charge them for everything, for instance underwear that they do not supply. 3 meals and it is water or a flavored drink. They are understaffed and overcrowded. Visiting hours are not even an hour a week. 20 minutes and it is scheduled. If you miss it to bad for you and them. You don't see them again until the next scheduled weekly visit. I feel sorry for everyone in this situation. The prisoner who has died, the friends and family who has lost a loved on. The staff who really can't do more than they do because of the board who makes the policies and guidelines that they must adhere to because they have no choice. PCJ needs to look at the policies and proceedures for all prisoner treatment.

First of all Tbone46135 how can I be an inmate when Im blogging on the internet??? They don't have this luxery and rightfully so. They don't sleep in cots they sleep in hard bunks or the floor with a 1 inch mat, a crappy blanket, and a kit for brushing your teeth. The point is that this mans death could be avoided if they had the proper care. I made a mistake once and i served a few days in jail. I'm sorry that your brother is a loser and enjoys going to jail often must run in the family. Just because someone broke the law doesnt mean that you treat them like dogs. I can see if a man is convicted of murder and sent to prison that your theory might work, but not in a county jail. Most of the inmates don't have recess unless they are in a trustee dorm which I don't feel is right myself. Chain gangs you have been watching to much Cool hand Luke. Get your self with the times kid.

I would like to point out that the purpose of ajail is NOT to supply you the comferts of home,but to house those who have (aledgely)broke the laws of the land and more often than not they are overcrowded,understafed,and undersupplyed,this being the case some sacrafices have to be made.If you think jail is bad here try breaking the law in a forgien country!

Let's see,no drivers license,no regerstration,no insurance,5 onuces of crack,convicted of manslaughter,and wanted by U S marshals for felony possesion of a fire arm,I guess that counts as an upstanding citizan!

First things first I would like to let Miss Too Much and the family of David Osborne know that you are all in my prayers. May GOD walk hand in hand with you while you struggle to get through a time so tragic. Just remember GOD is always there, if NO one else is! Second, for those that are judging David really need to think twice.. You are going off of an article that has slander this young man because they have no answers on how he really died. Why not just keep the information to a limit so that his family can mourn without the BS they are reading with some of the ignorant outburst people are making on here as if they have never made mistakes. Yeah they said he has several different charges against him but how does that really tell us HOW HE DIED IN A PRISON uh... It doesn't so instead of stating negative facts that no longer matter.. tell the world what's really going on in this prison and stop trying to cover your behinds! A human being has lost his life, he has family like you all have, he made mistakes like you all have, but in life we live and we learn. Yeah some come out with the same mind frame and some grow up and move on... So don't judge unless you've been there... That's Gods JOB! God PLEASE watch over The Family of David.. AMEN!

It is a tragedy for anyone to die and is a huge loss to family and friends. My deepest sympathy goes out to his family during this time of question and grief. As far as the place he passed away, it's just like if he were at home and the family woke up to find him not breathing. People do pass in their sleep. There is an autoposy scheduled to determine the actual cause of death and if foul play is found then those involved will pay for their mistakes. And if no foul play is found then I pray the family can find a way to understand that it was no ones fault and he is in a better place now. I have worked in the jail and I personally treat every inmate with dignity and respect. Inmate have bad days and act out as anyone will. On case by case basis, I deal with them according to their attitude and actions. There are no grudges held and hopefully the next day is better than the previous one. And with society, there are just some people who are always trouble makers and that can't be changed. Mr. Osborne to my knowledge was extremely respectable to all jail staff and never gave anyone any problems. Once a person is booked into jail, I tend to not worry about why they are in there but to do my best to ensure they are treated like a human until they are released from our custody. There is much blame and hatred being thrown around in this forum which I am sad to read. No jail is a perfect place and no inmate or jail staff is always perfect in their actions. Once again, my condolences go out to Mr. osbornes family and friends.

To:jamaicama,it is truly sad that a man,son,father dies,but I strongly disagree with you on how BAD a black man(or woman)has it here,with affermative action you have more oppertuinty to better yourself than any other ethinic group in america,but when a man choses the easy road then you live by the sword and die by the sword,that doesn't matter what color you are!Now that being said,if PCJ did somthing to contributate to his death then thay should be held fully acountable,I will add again,TO: the Banner,do you know the cause of death yet,and why is it taking so long to find this out!I will also add I DO NOT LIKE the conditions in jail,so I do everything in my power to keep from being put there,and NO i've never be in PCJ as an inmate,but as a Boy Scout leader I have on occasion visited jails and say,,,THANK GOD WE HAVE JAILS!

People create their own prison black, white, purple, green, and the list goes on. The topic at hand is this man died of neglience by the PCJ. I wouldn't be surprised if a lawsuit spawns out of this and rightly so. I made a mistake and went through the trenchs at the PCJ for a few days these officers simply don't give a flying you know what. Once you are booked they strip you of your meds if they are narcotics since someone who worked at the jail couldn't help stealing meds out of the med cart. The LPN who works there doesn't have a clue. They need a RN! It doesn't matter if you are in jail, people still should be treated humanely!

Last I read, the cause of death has not been determined. So what are you people doing? Making assumptions. How will you feel about your accusations if it is determined the jail is not at fault?

his crimainal record should not b an issue. it seem as if they using his criminal record to cover up what really happened in the jail. He hadnt been convicted or anything, white mans excuse, black mans faith DEATH!

I can relate to the family hearing complaints previously to the of david when he would call home or write. I have a old man that is currently in PCJ and have heard plenty of times about the over population and how the staff are rude and inconsiderate of the inmates rights actually i am in the process of contacting American Civil Liberties Union of Indiana to see what actions can be taken. I am well aware of the fact that a jail stay shouldnt be a time for comfort and relaxation, but there is no reason for a human being to be neglected of their rights and treated like they are a peice of dog crap that wont wipe off the bottom of someones shoe because they have to be bothered by doing their job.It seems to me that PCJ has forgotten only god can judge us.

I can't believe the "race card" was thrown out there. How about this, Jamaicama: How do you think white people feel when everything we do or say, no matter how legal or deserved it is, towards a black person turns us into racists. Did you know there are black guards at PCJ? Did you know that white people have died there too? Did you know the majority of people in our county jail are white? Did you know that ignorance is someone who automatically assumes that when a black person dies in a county jail that it was related to his race? Have you ever been to our county jail, visiting or housed?

Yes, inmates are seen by a nurse for day to day complaints, but if there is something she can not take care of the Dr. is called in.

No, she does not prescribe the medicine for said inmates, that is all done through the Dr. It is only dispersed through the nurse.

Yes, sometimes certain medication can not be given to an inmate. Think about what would become of our prison systems if everyone could complain about a sore back and receive pain killers. Think of how many inmates would die of overdoses or get killed for their meds.

1stamendrights: Do you live in Putnam county? Do you want your taxes raised so that we can buy each and everyone of the inmates SleepNumber beds, or build a new jail big enough for them to get plenty of exercise or recess as it was referred to? I am all for inmate rights, they are still humans at the end of the day, but I draw the line when it could effect my family's well being.

How can you spit at justice and say "Only God can judge us"? I am a christian but I also believe in order to keep my family safe, and yours by the way, that there must be justice for those who have broken the law. Which, basically means, judges and juries can judge us. Do the crime, pay the time. Was he guilty? I don't know. Would a jury of found him guilty? Beats me. Should he have been in jail? Absolutely, if we let the charged out of jail before they are tried then we are setting ourselves up for pain and hurt. What if we let child molesters and murderers out until someone says, oh wait, juries back and they found Mr I'll sneak into your house and rape your daughter, guilty. Do you honestly think the guilty are going to sit and wait for officers to come and find them? No. I didn't think so.

Until this man's autopsy has been completed, lets all try and remember he was someone's son, a father, a brother and a friend to some. No matter what his crime, he deserves that much from us.

And to the family, until the autopsy has been completed, don't hire an attorney yet. You're only making yourself the victims of another unfortunate tradgedy.

Want real luxury-DOC does a pretty good job of it.Offenders get treated a whole lot better than the officers.

It's the officers choice if they want to be there. Get another job if it's that bad, there is always someelse in line to take you job if you don't want it.