FDA takes additional actions on the use of a booster dose for COVID-19 vaccines

Wednesday, October 20, 2021

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration took action on Wednesday to expand the use of a booster dose for COVID-19 vaccines in eligible populations.

The agency is amending the emergency use authorizations (EUA) for COVID-19 vaccines to allow for the use of a single booster dose as follows:

The use of a single booster dose of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine that may be administered at least 6 months after completion of the primary series to individuals:

• 65 years of age and older

• 18 through 64 years of age at high risk of severe COVID-19

• 18 through 64 years of age with frequent institutional or occupational exposure to SARS-CoV-2

The use of a single booster dose of the Janssen (Johnson and Johnson) COVID-19 Vaccine may be administered at least 2 months after completion of the single-dose primary regimen to individuals 18 years of age and older.

The use of each of the available COVID-19 vaccines as a heterologous (or “mix and match”) booster dose in eligible individuals following completion of primary vaccination with a different available COVID-19 vaccine.

To clarify that a single booster dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine may be administered at least 6 months after completion of the primary series to individuals 18 through 64 years of age with frequent institutional or occupational exposure to SARS-CoV-2.

“Today’s actions demonstrate our commitment to public health in proactively fighting against the COVID-19 pandemic,” said Acting FDA Commissioner Janet Woodcock, M.D. “As the pandemic continues to impact the country, science has shown that vaccination continues to be the safest and most effective way to prevent COVID-19, including the most serious consequences of the disease, such as hospitalization and death. The available data suggest waning immunity in some populations who are fully vaccinated. The availability of these authorized boosters is important for continued protection against COVID-19 disease.”

“The amendments to the emergency use authorizations to include a single booster dose in eligible populations are based on the available data and information and follows the input from the members of our advisory committee who were supportive of the use of a booster dose of these vaccines in eligible populations,” said Peter Marks, M.D., Ph.D., director of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research. “We are also taking action today to include the use of mix and match boosters to address this public health need. We will work to accrue additional data as quickly as possible to further assess the benefits and risks of the use of booster doses in additional populations and plan to update the healthcare community and public with our determination in the coming weeks.”

Authorization of Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine Booster Dose

To support the authorization for emergency use of a single booster dose of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine, the FDA analyzed immune response data from 149 participants 18 years of age and older from the original clinical studies who received a booster dose at least 6 months after their second dose and compared it to the immune responses of 1,055 study participants after completing their two-dose series. The antibody response of the 149 participants against SARS-CoV-2 virus 29 days after a booster dose of the vaccine demonstrated a booster response.

The FDA also evaluated an additional analysis from Moderna comparing the rates of COVID-19 accrued during the Delta variant surge during July and August 2021, which suggest that there is a waning of vaccine effectiveness over time.

Safety was evaluated in 171 participants 18 years of age and older who were followed for an average of approximately six months. The most commonly reported side effects by the clinical trial participants who received the booster dose of the vaccine were pain at the injection site, tiredness, headache, muscle and/or joint pain, chills, swollen lymph nodes in same arm as the injection, nausea and vomiting, and fever. Of note, swollen lymph nodes in the underarm were observed more frequently following the booster dose than after the primary two-dose series.

Ongoing analyses from the FDA and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) safety surveillance systems have identified increased risks of inflammatory heart conditions, myocarditis and pericarditis, following vaccination with the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, particularly following the second dose. Typically, onset of symptoms has been a few days following vaccination. The observed risk is higher among males under 40 years of age, particularly males 18 through 24, than among females and older males.

The Moderna COVID-19 single booster dose is half of the dose that is administered for a primary series dose and is administered at least six months after completion of a primary series of the vaccine.

Authorization of Janssen (Johnson and Johnson) COVID-19 Vaccine Booster Dose

The authorization for emergency use of a single booster dose of the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine is based on the FDA’s evaluation of immune response data in 39 participants from a clinical trial including 24 participants who were 18 through 55 years of age and 15 participants who were 65 years of age and older. The study participants received a booster dose approximately 2 months after their first dose, and the results demonstrated a booster response.

Overall, approximately 9,000 clinical trial participants have received two doses of Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine administered at least two months apart and of these, approximately 2,700 have had at least two months of safety follow-up after the booster dose. Janssen’s safety analyses from these studies have not identified new safety concerns.

Earlier analyses from the FDA and CDC safety surveillance systems suggest an increased risk of a serious and rare type of blood clot in combination with low blood platelets following administration of the Janssen COVID-19 vaccine. This serious condition is called thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS). People who developed TTS after receiving the vaccine had symptoms that began about one to two weeks after vaccination. Reporting of TTS has been highest in females ages 18 through 49 years. In addition, safety surveillance suggests an increased risk of a specific serious neurological disorder called Guillain Barré syndrome, within 42 days following receipt of the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine.

Authorization of “Mix and Match” Booster Dose

The FDA is also authorizing the use of heterologous (or “mix and match”) booster dose for currently available (i.e., FDA-authorized or approved) COVID-19 vaccines. Following a presentation of clinical trial data from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee’s discussion of information submitted for consideration, along with the agency’s evaluation of the available data, the FDA has determined that the known and potential benefits of the use of a single heterologous booster dose outweigh the known and potential risks of their use in eligible populations.

A single booster dose of any of the available COVID-19 vaccines may be administered as a heterologous booster dose following completion of primary vaccination with a different available COVID-19 vaccine. The eligible population(s) and dosing interval for a heterologous booster dose are the same as those authorized for a booster dose of the vaccine used for primary vaccination.

For example, Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine recipients 18 years of age and older may receive a single booster dose of Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine, Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine (half dose) or Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine at least two months after receiving their Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine primary vaccination.

In another example, Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine and Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine recipients falling into one of the authorized categories for boosters (65 years of age and older, 18 through 64 years of age at high-risk of severe COVID-19, and 18 through 64 years of age with frequent institutional or occupational exposure to SARS-CoV-2) may receive a booster dose of Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine (half dose), Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine or Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine at least six months after completing their primary vaccination.

The agency recognizes that health care providers and COVID-19 vaccine recipients will have questions about booster doses. The individual fact sheets for each available vaccine provide relevant information for health care providers and the vaccine recipients. The agency encourages health care providers to also follow the recommendations that will be provided by the CDC following a meeting of their Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and formal recommendations signed by the CDC director.

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  • Good news! Let's get this done, the sooner the better.

    -- Posted by unbiased on Wed, Oct 20, 2021, at 6:04 PM
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    When the first round of Russian roulette was so much fun you want to do it again...


    At least they are now acknowledging some of the risks, but they still don't list DEATH as a risk.

    Remember, folks - just get your shot and it will all be back to normal in two weeks. [insert eyeroll here]

    -- Posted by dreadpirateroberts on Wed, Oct 20, 2021, at 6:52 PM
  • The pirate has obviously been “doing his own research” by watching grainy YouTube videos and mindlessly absorbing “information” from Newsmax again. Some things never change.


    -- Posted by Koios on Wed, Oct 20, 2021, at 7:52 PM
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    Nobody to litigate for unforeseen consequences, inexplicable legal distinctions between Comirnaty (FDA-approved, unavailable in the U.S.) vs. BioNTech (EUA) with the excuse being that it's just a branding blurb; nonexistent long-term studies but assuming it's still okay to use and now we're mixing-and-matching boosters like little collectable figurines a kid buys at a toy store... Still does nothing against transmission, and in many cases, actual infection. Don't believe me? Just ask Colin Powell. Still hearing about test procedures generating false-positives... And despite these marvels of modern day science, people still keep wearing masks BECAUSE THEY CARE.

    This is the proverbial turd that rode an Acme rocket into the fan...

    Blame the unvaccinated all you want, but at the end of the day, they're not the people holding livelihoods hostage for a forced vaccine THAT STILL FAILED. Reminds me of the success that ACA enjoyed.

    Here's a solemn reminder of how we got here:


    -- Posted by DouglasQuaid on Wed, Oct 20, 2021, at 7:53 PM
  • nothing to do with the above but just a few quotes that are quite interesting. Quite a bit of Irony. Koios, do you suppose the President watched grainy YouTube videos like DPR? LOL

    Biden quotes about Theranos

    “Talk about being inspired," Biden said. "This is inspiration. It is amazing to me, Elizabeth, what you’ve been able to do. What’s most impressive to me is you’re not only making these lab tests more accessible ... empowering people whether they live in the barrio or a mansion, putting them in a position to help take control of their own health.”

    Biden called Theranos’ California facility “the laboratory of the future.”

    -- Posted by beg on Wed, Oct 20, 2021, at 8:01 PM
  • Colin Powell had a pre-existing condition, a cancer that affects white blood cells. One job of white blood cells is to produce antibodies. It’s no wonder the vaccine was less successful for him. Feel free to keep ignoring science, though, after all it’s “your freedom”.

    -- Posted by Koios on Wed, Oct 20, 2021, at 8:30 PM
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    If I were pro-vaccine, I'd blame it on that, too.

    -- Posted by DouglasQuaid on Wed, Oct 20, 2021, at 8:37 PM
  • Of course you would say that, if it’s not a conspiracy theory you won’t entertain it.

    -- Posted by Koios on Wed, Oct 20, 2021, at 8:57 PM
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    Au contraire, mon ami. I'm perfectly okay with explanations as long as no reasons exist to remain skeptical. After all, if we're cool with waiving the preexisting condition card with Colin's mortality, then so, too, are we okay with waiving said card for whatever percentage exists for the others that have also been chalked up as Covid deaths when in fact, they could've perished from anything ranging from gang wars to obesity.

    So, with that in mind, are you taking the "preexisting conditions pledge?" Because it sounds like you are and if you're admitting that preexisting conditions apply, it completely undermines the numbers we've been fed up to now, hence yet another dimension to the skepticism.

    So you're right: we can't ignore the science. We need to follow it all the way, though. No more cherry-picking just because Biden told you to.

    C'mon, Koios. Give the people what they want. Take the pledge.

    -- Posted by DouglasQuaid on Wed, Oct 20, 2021, at 9:03 PM
  • Let your last post speak for itself. It says a lot.

    -- Posted by Koios on Wed, Oct 20, 2021, at 10:04 PM
  • Koios,

    I see you ignored my question. Hmmmm. But I do understand

    -- Posted by beg on Wed, Oct 20, 2021, at 10:19 PM
  • Let us deal in real terms. If a product has a 95% success rate, that means +/- 5% will not experience success.

    If I told you a drug is available that has a 95% success rate vs cancer but with limited research and little understanding of long term impact, would you take it? I know the answer so you don't need to pretend you wouldn't.

    On the other side, we know many things are bad for us yet we aren't forced to not to partake in them. In addition, look at the amount of energy that is spent protecting the right to take a life in the name of personal medical freedom and all the evil names people are called when they want to protect that life

    I will now leap a couple of ponds for the sake of time- finding solutions together is not a bad thing. Compromise is not a bad thing. Often, parts of different perspectives bring a positive solution.

    There is a book that deals specifically with racial issues but the lessons are transferable. I encourage all to read "Not so Black and White" and seriously ponder the lessons presented.

    I have been vaccinated and chose to do so for I consider it best so this is truly not about the vaccine.

    This is about legit conversation. Most of us are so insecure in our political theology that we can't truly look at an issue with an honest perspective. I have been criticized on here for doing so.

    I don't hide my love for President Reagan, the greatest President of my lifetime but he had flaws, made mistakes, etc.

    I was not a fan of President Clinton (well mainly Hillary Rodham, who is only matched by the past President on the narcissist scale) but he was not evil incarnated.

    The leaders of your political theology have convinced you that compromise is wrong. That other perspectives are evil. The current fight within the SCL party is proof of that. It also happened the with Tea Partiers. We are told to support things we haven't taken the time to study or understand. Isn't that an insult to you?

    I have ranted long enough. I am sure I don't make sense to some and will be misinterpreted by others. I get it.

    Those on the libertarian stage- take a hard look at what is best when you are faced with issues you condemn but now want a different response.

    Those on the SCL spectrum- consider quitting ignoring reality/ practical sense and seek the best.

    I have over stayed my welcome. BG, thanks for the forum. I do wish you enforced your asks of us but thanks for the freedom you do provide to share.

    -- Posted by beg on Wed, Oct 20, 2021, at 11:05 PM
  • I believe everyone should get the vaccine. However, I believe that no one should be MANDATED to get the vaccine.

    -- Posted by Jaxks on Wed, Oct 20, 2021, at 11:19 PM
  • Beg - Your comment is probably the most coherent and sensible one I've ever seen in the BG. I am your total opposite politically (detest Reagan, loved HRC), but can still recognize his better points and her downside. Your comment makes me feel that there may be hope for Rs and Ds to move forward together.

    -- Posted by unbiased on Thu, Oct 21, 2021, at 2:05 AM
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    Let's not confuse coherency with logical sense in beg's quest for virtue attention, unbiased... I'm sure her admitting her vaccination turned you on, but allow unbiased reason to have a moment in the sun. (No pun intended.)


    No, beg, you don't know the answer that your cancer-riddled archetype would have in your overly-generic scenario surrounding your wonder product. People would still have justification to refuse it and they likely should or at least be entitled to a second or third opinion prior to a final decision if taking it translated into sacrificed trade-offs which can undermine their prioritized values. After all, an 80 year-old retiree might be okay with the 0.01% chance of resulting impotence whereas the 20-something newlywed might refuse if living with his melanoma for a year enables childbearing with his high school sweetheart. There's a billion other more realistic use case criteria that you should've considered before positing your "real terms." Also, when it comes to being your own advocate, there is no compromise: medical autonomy has to exist since medical science very rarely provides a universal approach. The ill-tested vaccines that have been proven time and again to do absolutely nothing about transmission and or infection against the very things they're touted as providing immunity for, is a nonstarter for many. More over, when the mainstream definition of what constitutes a true vaccine gets twisted and revised to accommodate the current vaccine deficiencies we're hardly allowed to see testimonials of in most media without being censored, it only reinforces the justified skepticism many have about those flexing their medical tyranny muscles. You get more ants with sugar...but the idea that we're even still referring to them as vaccines, is absurd.

    And the comparison you tried to bridge between your wonder product and the abortion context was myopic at best. During a time when much of the current controversy we see stems from vaccine mandates, you gloss over your own medical autonomy and how it plays into Roe v. Wade's established precedent while ignoring the fact that not everyone is as permitted with the same level of autonomy. It's almost apples and oranges.

    However, it's interesting that you characterize the subject matter as "political theology." We have too many cretins lauding a greater public good without realizing how they've transformed their political initiative into a form of religious extremism. Those people simultaneously expect their opposition to turn blind eyes or do nothing about their attempts to force others to meet their medical safe space expectations by hijacking and holding hostage entire livelihoods of the dissenters. They're also using these times to get their way with completely unrelated wish list items in the workplace or legislation. So with a religious motif in mind, here's another word worth using: persecution. The acolytes busy turning their political crusades into legalized persecution is a form of religious extremism worth mulling and anyone who does that very thing, whether via harassing shoppers at Wal-Mart for not wearing masks or creating legislative policy allowing employers to fire people for refusing vaccines, absolutely are the problem and should get the guillotine.

    -- Posted by DouglasQuaid on Thu, Oct 21, 2021, at 11:20 AM
  • "The ill-tested vaccines that have been proven time and again to do absolutely nothing about transmission and or infection against the very things they're touted as providing immunity for"

    No one except for card carrying QAnon members can take you seriously after that statement.

    -- Posted by Koios on Thu, Oct 21, 2021, at 11:30 AM
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    Koios, your opinion means so much to me. Thank you.

    -- Posted by DouglasQuaid on Thu, Oct 21, 2021, at 12:43 PM
  • Just get the freakin' shot and shut up.

    -- Posted by Queen53 on Thu, Oct 21, 2021, at 2:27 PM
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    -- Posted by DouglasQuaid on Thu, Oct 21, 2021, at 2:47 PM
  • 14 days to flatten the curve.

    -- Posted by techphcy on Thu, Oct 21, 2021, at 3:29 PM
  • DQ said-"Koios, your opinion means so much to me. Thank you."

    -- Posted by Prince of Stardust Hills on Thu, Oct 21, 2021, at 5:15 PM
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    Koios - at least you are puritanical in your zeal. As a cultist you are top-notch. Are you a scientologist? You would certainly fit in.

    I didn't say anything about Powell or his death being attributed to COVID. The guy was 80+ years old and had some serious health problems. He had been on borrowed time for a while. There have been a number of deaths attributed to the shot, some of which had comorbidities and some that didn't. Do you accept that people have died b/c of the shot?

    Is it a small percentage? Probably very. But +1>0.

    And we know that this very philosophy of +1>0 is what you are standing on b/c you just chided Mr Quaid about his words "do absolutely nothing about transmission and or infection", where you can only refute on the grounds of +1>0 and his hyperbolic "absolutely nothing". For while we know they do "something" for "some people" (+1>0), we also know that they do not prevent infection or transmission. Do you accept that the shots do not prevent infection or transmission?

    So it becomes a game of chance... a la Russian roulette...regardless of where you lay your money. There are risks associated with both the wild virus (in both people and animals) and the shot (in all its forms).

    What's wrong with letting people choose how best to deal with their own health?

    -- Posted by dreadpirateroberts on Thu, Oct 21, 2021, at 7:09 PM
  • The protected need to be protected

    from the unprotected

    by forcing the unprotected

    to use the protection

    that didn't




    -- Posted by direstraits on Thu, Oct 21, 2021, at 8:54 PM
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    DPR & DQ - The level of ignorance that you both possess is absolutely mind boggling. If you want to be Anti-Vax / Anti-Covid shot then whatever but basing your stance off of lies is just ridiculous. "we also know that they do not prevent infection or transmission" & " The ill-tested vaccines that have been proven time and again to do absolutely nothing about transmission and or infection" are complete falsehoods and you would think someone with the vast intelligence you both try to portray would be embarrassed to even type that. I would say you are both medical marvels as you've proven that a person truly can exist without a brain.


    -- Posted by RSOTS on Thu, Oct 21, 2021, at 9:25 PM
  • What's wrong with letting people choose how best to deal with their own health?

    There is nothing wrong with that. As long as people are in a universe where actual scientific facts are driving peoples decisions, not politics, and conspiracy theories. Yes, there are breakthrough infections, which overwhelmingly don’t lead to a negative outcome. Yes a very small percentage of people have had a death response after taking a coronavirus vaccine. Vastly less than those who have died after getting infected with Coronavirus. Even when you control out the people who have died in car crashes and it was listed as Covid. Stop buying the lies.

    -- Posted by Koios on Thu, Oct 21, 2021, at 10:28 PM
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    RSOTS, you might think my remarks bogus, but ask someone who's been vaccinated who's gone through all the lock-downs, workplace inconveniences, grocery store confrontations, forced to wear masks, and despite their prejudice of it, decided to go ahead and get the vaccine under protest for fear of losing their livelihood, AND STILL CATCH IT. Better yet, ask someone who's had a family member die from Covid despite being fully-vaccinated. For all our sake, I hope you have problems finding any of those people, but if you do, I doubt they'll believe my words to be as idiotic as you think they are. Those people might be outliers, sure, but they exist. I've known many who were vaccinated that caught it, and in their retrospect, they confessed regret over getting the vaccine because they all believed it did absolutely nothing and now something is in their bloodstream that they can't take out without any understanding of what unforeseen consequences that might cause. Debate that all you want.

    At the end of the day, one's perspective depends greatly on their relative experiences with a given phenomena. Apparently, you've suffered no losses from it. Knowing you and how you express opinions about all of this, I'm sure you were one of the first to get all lathered up with the vaccine and as such, you are now a pillar of our beloved community's effort to combat these trying times. Great. But despite your experience as being grand, others might have different experiences. Don't like that? Tough titty says the kitty.

    Call me an idiot all you want, but calling someone out for their intelligence when you show no wherewithal to distinguish between being anti-vaccine and being either anti-*COVID*-vaccine or anti-mandated vaccine goes only to show your low IQ.

    -- Posted by DouglasQuaid on Thu, Oct 21, 2021, at 11:10 PM
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    I see the Amateur Epidemiology Society is back with their own research.

    Apparently to them, a "double-blind study" is putting a bag on your head before you bury it in the sand.

    -- Posted by Bunny1E on Fri, Oct 22, 2021, at 9:14 AM

    -- Posted by direstraits on Fri, Oct 22, 2021, at 9:34 AM
  • DS, you are not as clever as you think you are.

    -- Posted by unbiased on Fri, Oct 22, 2021, at 9:42 AM
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    DQ - Oh you poor challenged soul. I called you ignorant not an idiot. You should probably brush up on the difference between the two before you chide someone about their "Low IQ". I swear if I had to jump from your ego to your IQ I would need a parachute.

    -- Posted by RSOTS on Fri, Oct 22, 2021, at 10:09 AM
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    Focus, RSOTS.

    -- Posted by DouglasQuaid on Fri, Oct 22, 2021, at 11:13 AM
  • Our federal government has a lengthy and distinguished history of deception, outright lying, and corruption that continues to this very day. People have been killed, leaders assassinated, countries looted, and citizens denied rights that are lawfully theirs. Anyone who denies that this is true lives under a rock or has never read a history book.

    What is the big rush to believe the government is being truthful and honest concerning the latest pandemic? From what I read, hear on the radio, and learn from any of the various news networks, there are a lot of questions concerning the government's involvement in the current crisis. Despite the derogatory names and comments heaped upon the doubters, and perhaps because I once lived southwest of Salt Lake City near the Dugway Proving Grounds, I believe their viewpoints are worthy of more respect. Yes, I've been vaccinated, but I still don't believe half or more of the garbage from the government line or the socialists demanding I conform or else.

    -- Posted by Prince of Stardust Hills on Fri, Oct 22, 2021, at 11:35 AM
  • Covid Survival Rates

    0-19 years 99.997%

    20-49 years 99.98%

    50-69 years 99.5%

    70+ years 94.6%

    source: CDC.gov

    -- Posted by direstraits on Fri, Oct 22, 2021, at 6:38 PM
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    RSOTS - before you go around labeling people as ignorant you might want to reconsider your words, to wit: "basing your stance off of lies is just ridiculous", lest you find yourself looking even more foolish than normal.

    My "stance" is that the shot does not prevent infection nor does it prevent transmission. Given the FACT of breakthrough cases - and yeah, it really is a fact, not a lie...even your fellow traveler Koios admits it - there is no absolute difference (+1>0) in infection and transmission between getting the shot and not getting the shot. It is merely a matter of percentages and chance on both infection/transmission and severity. Then added to this are the risks associated with the shots. Again, facts.

    The probability of being killed by a cow is very low. But it is NEVER zero.

    I think people should be allowed to decide whether or not they want the shot. Reasons for or against should be either kept private or discussed discreetly amongst peers, if you wish. Generally, I don't need to know and I dont need to know why. If you wish to discriminate you are free to do so... I discriminate against smokers in my house. Put out a general notice to your friends/family. Put a sign up on your door. Ask.

    Instead of personal attacks, snide comments, and simply saying we are wrong with no supporting evidence; how is it that our arguments are wrong? Give us a logical argument for your POV.

    Silly Rabbit - you might want to re-read this post.

    -- Posted by dreadpirateroberts on Fri, Oct 22, 2021, at 7:25 PM
  • DIRESTRAITS-even if the above facts are ABSOLUTELY and POSITIVELY accurate, it doesn't matter because the Biden administration has chosen to believe in the truth over facts.


    -- Posted by Prince of Stardust Hills on Fri, Oct 22, 2021, at 7:26 PM
  • Those “Covid survival rate” numbers mentioned above have been circling around on various social media sites for months. They are not actual numbers representing real data, they are numbers that the CDC use for statistical modeling during global pandemics.

    -- Posted by Koios on Fri, Oct 22, 2021, at 7:49 PM
  • The Theranos President is my health care expert!

    -- Posted by beg on Fri, Oct 22, 2021, at 11:43 PM
  • Isn't it becoming more and more apparent that the universal "vaccine"(not a vaccine) approach to this WuHan virus is NOT about health?

    Rather, this is about control of each individual's body and in turn giving that bodily control over to Big Pharma and Big Tech by way of the authoritarian government's heavy handed mandates.

    The leaky injections of gene therapy are failing bigly and the authoritarian answer is more injections. Really?

    Viruses adapt and the more you partially modify them with a new injection the more you create another mutant virus while simultaneously weaken the hosts natural immunity.

    These Big entities are systematically getting more control over the freedom of the individual to choose what gets injected into your body.

    Soon and very soon there will be no choice to be made anymore. It will be a foregone conclusion that you must have the injection or the consequences will be DIRE, as in irreversible.

    Wake up and smell the sh*t being shoveled all around you.

    -- Posted by direstraits on Sat, Oct 23, 2021, at 10:55 AM
  • Well my neighbors are up in arms again. just ask yourself this question, does the government genuinely seek the best for me and mine or am i just flyover trash?

    -- Posted by davide_norris on Sat, Oct 23, 2021, at 5:41 PM
  • David_Norris! Hit the internet. There's some great information available for the honest and the curious. Look up the history of the DUGWAY PROVING GROUNDS and AMERICA's involvement in biological warfare. There is a huge amount of information available, all of which is apparently being IGNORED by my fellow citizens. If you are a normal person, you will be shocked. I could tell you some stories, but they are not stories.

    By the way, if you come away from your research believing the government is your friend and trustworthy, then consider yourself a true socialist/democrat and out of touch.

    -- Posted by Prince of Stardust Hills on Sat, Oct 23, 2021, at 6:31 PM
  • well my friend posh i am aware of dugway and plum island. this stuff has been going on for a while, lately i've been reading about the starvation death camps along the rhine river after ww2. and to think i'm a sixth generation soldier with my son currently in the artillery. disheartening how little our government cares for us

    -- Posted by davide_norris on Sat, Oct 23, 2021, at 7:11 PM
  • DAVIDE_NORRIS. Good for you and yours. The tradition continues at our house, too.

    I'm surprised to learn that anyone in Indiana is familiar with DUGWAY. I used to live very nearby and am somewhat familiar with the testing grounds. Plus, I've been in several of the basement laboratories by government invitation, if you understand my meaning. I am shocked by how much information concerning government subterfuge and lying is available at the library and on the internet. It's incredible, yet almost all Americans are ignorant of the testing done on civilians, the death of lab workers and participants, and this doesn't even include the extensive loss of life and despair concerning Downwinders.

    Is there a connection between biological warfare and the COVID virus? I'd bet on it. That's why certain folks are so darn busy trying to protect the secrets concerning its evolution.

    I've come to the conclusion that modern socialist America can't read, doesn't care, or is so involved with naval gazing that it has lost its foundational American/ spirit/identity/purpose and would rather wither away on the vine demanding conformity rather than voice awareness and individuality.

    -- Posted by Prince of Stardust Hills on Sat, Oct 23, 2021, at 8:11 PM
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    Too many people today are afraid to espouse their own individualism and because of this, it's trained people to be oblivious to the value of critical thought, assuming they even know what that is to begin with. As someone who works all week with both college kids and their faculty (to say nothing about also working with the administration who governs both), I can say without any doubt that the problems we face today will look like nothing if we don't somehow find a way to get control of the education system because I'm 100% sold on that being the source for at least 80% of today's issues, and the reason is simple: progressive liberalism being fostered by indoctrination without a single ounce of accountability.

    -- Posted by DouglasQuaid on Sat, Oct 23, 2021, at 10:07 PM
  • “Too many people today are afraid to espouse their own individualism and because of this, it's trained people to be oblivious to the value of critical thought”.

    You are correct, you have described QAnon followers perfectly with your statement.

    Conspiracy theories have to go. There is no productive use for them.

    -- Posted by Koios on Sat, Oct 23, 2021, at 11:11 PM
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    Actually, it depends on what's being construed (or conflated) as conspiracy theory material.

    And everything has a use.

    -- Posted by DouglasQuaid on Sat, Oct 23, 2021, at 11:57 PM
  • It always comes down to the glasses a person wears determines their perspective.

    -- Posted by beg on Sat, Oct 23, 2021, at 11:58 PM
  • Navel, not naval. Sorry. Typing too fast.

    -- Posted by Prince of Stardust Hills on Sun, Oct 24, 2021, at 6:34 AM
  • I love how the LCS congregants ignore real issues

    -- Posted by beg on Sun, Oct 24, 2021, at 11:09 PM
  • -- Posted by direstraits on Mon, Oct 25, 2021, at 12:27 PM
  • direstraits-The following may provide something of an education. Lots of information concerning COVID 19 and the biological warfare aspects of its development.


    In other words, COVID 19 is NO SECRET to those involved in biological warfare. Sorry, this might be too detailed and too much information, and if you are a socialist/democrat/conformist, it may mean little or nothing to you.

    -- Posted by Prince of Stardust Hills on Mon, Oct 25, 2021, at 2:20 PM
  • Alex Berenson’s vaccine claims are completely void of facts, logic, and honest thought. Basically he is lying to you to make money off of you.

    -- Posted by Koios on Mon, Oct 25, 2021, at 6:13 PM
  • KOIOS-If Alex Berenson's claims can be found anywhere in my link, I didn't see it. You must be noting only the link DIRESTAITS provided. Did I miss something?

    -- Posted by Prince of Stardust Hills on Mon, Oct 25, 2021, at 7:12 PM
  • Yes that was in response to direstraits. Apologies, I should have noted that.

    -- Posted by Koios on Mon, Oct 25, 2021, at 7:15 PM
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