County climbs to 11 COVID-19 cases as state tops 2,500

Even if all nineteen confirmed cases have visited the same grocery/convenience stores in the all of the county. I want to know it. Same for the gas stations, med centers and hospitals etc. Those facts need to drive home the ease of infection to all who unknowingly come in contact from the source(s).

But, if there are pockets in different parts of the county that not all are frequenting (and I am getting this was the case in the beginning at least) then even more so the public needs to know to be aware of those places for everyone's benefit. We all still have to live and gather resources to stay at home or go to work.

If they really want us to believe the solution to "flattening the curve" is to practice social distancing. They need to trust us to have the facts about where, generally, the known positives have been.

p.s.

I know we don't have all the data we want to have. Information we do have should be used.

Just like the hydroxychloroquine-zpac-zinc treatments being allowed but not widely applied, yet. It is information that can be used!

Im curious as to how many of these people have been hospitalized.

The numbers of reported cases will undoubtedly rise as the virus spreads through the county and as more and more testing is done.

However, do the numbers of hospitalizations match up with what we were told to expect?

I still think that we are going about this all wrong... that the high spike model with targeted precautions for the more vulnerable would be more appropriate.

As it is, they keep moving the dates further out (as predicted) b/c "flattening the curve" prolongs the duration.

Herd immunity theory and even prophylactic use of CQ/HCQ would be better than the slow death of the economy and all the anxieties caused by the daily updates of just enough information to worry you but not enough information to actually allow you to make any kind of informed decision... such as x-of-y cases are in Cloverdale (merely as an example).

DP, there's a lot going on in all which makes me suspicious of bad actors...

For example, the biggest killer in America is Heart Disease with a total mortality rate being somewhere around 1,000 people per-day, and supposedly, deaths resulting from Heart Disease can be legally attributed to the virus on death certificates if during postmortems the bodies are found to be carriers of Covid-19. As a result, this pandemic's mortality numbers increase and if they can do that with Heart Disease, they can surely do it with Lung Disease, Diabetes, and anything else that can correlate to the outbreak. Combine that with anyone in the medical community who might have axes to grind for Trump (up to and including wealthy research donors and or special interest organizations), which I'm sure there's no shortage of, and you begin to see an unfolding agenda being made manifest.

Sadly, it doesn't stop there...

We can all imagine the business interests who have incentive for perpetuating this pandemic. The grocery stores alone are loving the hoarders (albeit not publicly-admitting it). I read a piece not a few days ago about how grocers are stockpiling money and hiring more. That's not a coincidence. Don't forget the laypeople we all know who simply prefer to work from home, who enjoy not needing to go to school or the office, some of which might simply be somewhat antisocial who prefer to avoid people, etc... Even more so is how various political operatives are already trying to push out another stimulus "relief" package containing much more than just relief for us like what was in the last effort. Long story short, there's parties all over the place who have stakes to claim in this affair.

I'm hedging my bets on being in this mess until sometime after the elections and I'd bet everything I have that this will be when we see something change, either for better or worse. I can't see anything like a martial law happening because I doubt the resources exist to enforce something like that even if authorities wanted to, but I can see us eventually saying, "Well, we gave it our all! We just have to accept the risk now and go back to normal." I only say this because I doubt the economy (and people in general) can sustain much more of what we've been trying to deal with, especially if unemployment and bankruptcies keep increasing, not to mention the daily unpredictability of social harmonies being disrupted and the volatility of the stock markets.

Oh my. I'm grabbing my tinfoil hat as we speak and getting ready for the ride.

DouglasQuaid - yes, there are many people who are making bank on this situation... including many currently in Congress.

I agree that the death numbers are not entirely accurate.

I have read that is one reason why Italy's death rate is so high. They were tagging just about anyone that died (for any medical, non-trauma, event) as COVID-19 deaths.

COVID-19 death is gonna bring money, while pneumonia from influenza or something else...not so much.

Stay safe and wash your hands. :)

So sad to think at a time like this people are thinking politics and money. We should all be on our knees praying for our hospitals and all the first responders at this time. They are putting their lives on the line to protect the rest of us from this horrible virus.

Nit, you're sorely mistaken if you assumed that I signed a contract stipulating my responsibility to bear the burdens of those who spent thousands of dollars and years of their lives trying to become trained well enough to endure the risks and rigor inherent in a hospital workplace full of sick people. As difficult as it might be to rationalize, you're not the arbiter of morality nor does the world kowtow to your fragile sensibilities. Whether you like it or not, this entire situation has politics oozing from the woodwork and I'm not about to feel guilty spending a comment or two mulling it over. Heaven forbid a single person on Earth take a few moments to explore subject matter existing outside the strict confines of the one topic which has practically enabled media addictions in the many.

To each his own. My number one priority at this time due to the virus, is the health and safety of my family and friends- not to figure out who’s who in politics .

That's awfully big of you because for a split second, it actually seemed as if your top priority was to gratuitously judge others you know nothing about, in online mixed company, not for exploiting any dire societal circumstances or committing actual crimes, but rather, for emphasizing critically-considered political angles not necessarily coinciding with whatever worldview principles you try to make those around you believe you revolve your adulthood after. It's good to know you're not like that...and as you ceded, to each his own. ;.)

DQ, I'm working desperately trying to keep my conspiracy theory yarn board up to date. I have pictures and yarn going every direction and it is getting very very confusing. Please shed some light on how the Medical Community, Wealthy Research Donors, Special Interest Organizations, Grocery Stores, Laypeople (great term btw), Anti Social People and Various Political Operatives pulled this off. Was there a giant meeting that I didn't get invited to? Secret handshakes developed? I'm anxiously awaiting clarification as I set here trembling with excitement holding my yarn and thumbtacks.

I think It's actually a good idea for everyone to always keep a skeptical mind when it comes to government officials. It's in their interest to keep a certain image, mainly because they want to keep their prestigious job and big paycheck.

Don't forget this is election season and scaremongering is a common tool some politicians use. Is what they're saying really true? or is it an exaggeration or lie to trick people, to protect their job? Or distract from other behavior that looks bad? Or use people's fear to push through policy or actions that are unpopular? I think if you follow several different news outlets you can get an idea of who is honest and who the deceivers are. Or in terms of party politics, protecting and covering for each other so they will receive the same help when they need it themselves?

I believe there are several officials in our local county and state government representing us right now who are hyper-political, always scheming and strategizing to protect not just their jobs, but other party members, which is fine, right? The problem is when they start to mislead people or lie, or actions that in other professions people would lose their jobs or be prosecuted...

Sigh...

RSOTS, it would seem that you're also desperately vying for my attention as I ignored your earlier noise but despite that, here you are, again, except this time you've managed to outdo yourself with yet another breathtaking remark that only your 9mm mindset can manifest in our .357 Magnum world.

You're like one of those little gnats that fly around a dog's genitals during the summer months except that those little flies can rationalize the nuances inherent with how capitalism and politics taint the hearts and minds of those constrained by them and or grasp how a conspiracy can be mutually exclusive from any involved bad actors in any number of societal phenomena. Surely you don't need your hand held for that?

DQ, So I'm like one of those gnats or not like one of them? Once again you've left me confused.

Maybe I'll study on how to put a lot of big words together that don't go together so I can be in your .357 Magnum world. Oh wait I'm probably to much of a laypeople to muster up that much effort.

I am sure the Carnegie's, Rockefeller's, and Morgan's have something to do with all of this.

I am sure the Carnegie's, Rockefeller's, and Morgan's have something to do with all of this. Oh, and the Vanderbilt's

RSOTS, do your own homework... As for everything else, well, I'm just going to let you stew over it in hopes that you eventually scoop something out worth chewing on. ;.)