Wellness center gets PCH thumbs up

Monday, October 3, 2022

The next step in the wellness center/community center/YMCA project will have to wait until the Greencastle Redevelopment Commission (RDC) can set a special meeting.

That is expected to come prior to the regular monthly meeting of the Greencastle City Council for October since the Redevelopment Commission must first pass a resolution in favor of the project before the Council can consider it.

The RDC took no action on the matter at its September meeting, as which time City Attorney Laurie Hardwick said no new information was available and the resolution was not ready for RDC consideration.

“We did get word from (Putnam County Hospital Executive Director) Dennis Weatherford,” Hardwick told the group, “of a thumbs up from the hospital to move ahead.”

The hospital, which will lease a portion of the facility from the city, is “very much interested in participating,” Hardwick added.

At the recent combined City Council-RDC special session, it was announced that the project would cost $28,350,000 -- $5,165,000 of which would be the medical office building. The hospital is expected to make annual payments of $260,000 over the 20-year life of the bond.

“So what’s the next step?” RDC member Gary Lemon asked.

That would be the special session “once we have all the figures,” Hardwick said. “The Council will need to act on it, too.”

The other question from RDC members was should they put the cash on the reserve or wrap it into the bond?

“If you have the money, you can reduce the amount of bond,” Lemon noted. “We have X dollars we can put in. Do we increase the amount we borrow and put some money in over the top?”

No decision has been made on that matter.

The city, Wabash Valley YMCA and Putnam County Hospital are all involved in the approximately 60,000-square-foot project. The city will own the facility and lease spaces to the YMCA and the hospital.

The city has yet to finalize the lease agreements with the YMCA or Putnam County Hospital.

Meanwhile, in the only other matter before the RDC, the go-ahead was given on the Jackson Street sidewalk project.

It looks as though the city will be acquiring or purchasing 15 or 16 parcels of property along South Jackson Street to facilitate the project, Hardwick said.

Two contracts with Civil Engineering Consultant (CeCon) were approved. One covers design work, right-of-way development and utility coordination for $62,000. The other covers right-of-way engineering and title and encumbrances not to exceed $52,000.

RDC members Lemon, Erika Gilmore, Gwen Morris, Lottie Barcus and Brian Cox were in attendance. Mayor Bill Dory was absent.

The next regular session of the RDC is set for 5:30 p.m. Wednesday, Oct. 19 at City Hall.

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  • I have read every word you have written Raker. You are very knowledgeable on a lot of different facts. I also read the South Bend article you posted about. I am confused. You are taking these big hospitals in South Bend and Marion County and assuming that is what is happening in Putnam County. Maybe you need to get your statistics from Putnam County instead. No one needs to know the CEO’s salary but I seriously would suspect it is not $8 million a year. Neither does the hospital own the nursing homes. Most of our nursing homes are part of a ‘chain’ type facility where the owner has several in different areas, not just Greencastle. I do not intend to cause issues by my post but I think you(Raker) need not jump to many conclusions until you know the exact facts. I don’t know a lot of the answers about the new Wellness Center but I feel we are told what we need to know.

    -- Posted by Nit on Tue, Oct 4, 2022, at 3:25 PM
  • Nit you're wrong on all counts. It's happening in Putnam County, they own at least ten nursing homes that I counted including Asbury Towers, The Waters, and Mill Pond. Also 1 in Spencer, 3 in Terre Haute, one in Crawfordsville, one in Princeton and possibly more, I just stopped looking. The Indystar report said they're just managed by these private companies or chains. And it's 100% true that the Boone County hospital CEO reported on some public tax record that indystar got ahold of that he made 8 million in total compensation as CEO in one year. You want to deny it because it sounds excessive, and I agree. Excessive is an understatement.

    -- Posted by Raker on Tue, Oct 4, 2022, at 6:15 PM
  • Putnam County does not have 10 nursing homes. No more comments from me. I stated the only facts that I am familiar with. I cannot agree with you Raker but I can’t prove otherwise

    -- Posted by Nit on Tue, Oct 4, 2022, at 7:53 PM
  • Raker Where do I find in the Indystars interactive map showing all of the nursing homes and who owns them?

    -- Posted by Nit on Tue, Oct 4, 2022, at 8:00 PM
  • -- Posted by Raker on Tue, Oct 4, 2022, at 8:50 PM
  • Ind.gov lists Putnam County Hospital as the owner of The Waters and Asbury Towers in Greencastle. PCH owns many more, but I just verified these 2 on Ind.gov website.

    I hope Nit posts an apology to Raker soon.

    -- Posted by kbmom on Tue, Oct 4, 2022, at 10:27 PM
  • Kbmom. I do not feel as if I owe Raker an apology. I told him I did not agree with him but I could not prove otherwise. Apparently my research on this subject is nil at this point. I think I was very polite to Raker and ask for more information that he provided to me. Sorry I ruffled feathers kbmom.

    -- Posted by Nit on Tue, Oct 4, 2022, at 10:34 PM
  • What do you think, Nit?

    -- Posted by Raker on Wed, Oct 5, 2022, at 1:38 PM
  • Raker. I’m not sure.

    -- Posted by Nit on Wed, Oct 5, 2022, at 9:12 PM
  • Nit, here's a more summarized article about the nursing home investigation. I also read an article about Hancock County hospital who owns 31 nursing and are using their stolen nursing home money to develop and build wellness centers, too! and theirs actually have an indoor pool! They're also building their own nursing homes with it. I also included a link to the article about the hancock regional ceo making 8 million.

    https://www.indystar.com/story/news/investigations/2020/03/15/indiana-nursing-ho...

    https://www.hancockregionalhospital.org/wellness-education/hancock-wellness-cent...

    https://www.indystar.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2020/12/13/indiana-county-...

    -- Posted by Raker on Thu, Oct 6, 2022, at 4:35 PM
  • I meant to say the Witham hospital ceo made 8 million, not hancock regional

    -- Posted by Raker on Thu, Oct 6, 2022, at 5:13 PM
  • It looks like my first comment was removed for some reason, but I do have some new info... first, Putnam County Hospital is listed as the owner of at least thirteen nursing homes, but there could be more. At least one of them they actually bought from the owner.

    They created a company called Putnam Acute Holdings, LLC (the hospital board members and CEO are listed by name as the owners), and then used that to buy a nursing home called Century Villa in Greentown, east of Kokomo. The way they did it was so convoluted that it was denied tax exemption by the state. Something about the hospital creating a for-profit company, loaning it money and buying up businesses sounds very strange to me.

    So could the school board and superintendent, which function similar to the hospital, also use the school money to start a for-profit business? That's pretty wild.

    But that's the only one that I know about where they're actually buying the nursing home. What's really upsetting to me is that they bought it in 2018, and yet for the year 2019 it had a 1 out of 5 rating from the federal government, making it one of the worst nursing homes in Indiana (CMS ratings). So clearly they bought it just to suck the medicaid money out at the expense of the residents.

    Second, as far as I can tell, the hospital started "taking ownership" of local nursing homes in 2012, the same year Matt Headley became a board member. Coincidence? Or was it his idea? Hmm...

    Also, Hancock county actually has three wellness centers with gyms and pools, not two. And the implication is that it's being funded with this nursing home money.

    The Indianapolis Star is suing eight of the twenty-two county hospitals involved in the nursing home scam to see how much money they're making, and also how much they pay their CEOs and employees. If they get that info, then they'll have it on all 22 counties which includes Putnam. I'd imagine then they'll start reporting specific numbers, which I don't think they've done yet. When that happens, and if they have some evidence that shows something even more outrageous, I really wouldn't be surprised if it gets even bigger news coverage. I hope the YMCA and the city at least know about this.

    There are some efforts being made by officials to finally start requiring that the money actually be spent in the nursing homes, and when that happens the quality of care will go way up, because they can hire more staff and make improvements to the facilities. After all those years of people suffering, right? But then the hospitals, who are no longer profiting from the arrangement, will probably end it. And then they will probably be forced to scale back business. Will they even have money for the wellness center at that point?

    -- Posted by Raker on Sun, Oct 9, 2022, at 10:07 AM
  • I also mentioned in my comment that was deleted how I felt there were some small similarities between this and the county taking over the Operation Life. Commissioner Rick Woodall seemed to be well studied on the issue of the ambulance services, and in my opinion it would've been likely that as an elected official, he would have known that there was new state laws getting introduced in 2020 in the upcoming session to be voted on to improve EMS funding that had support in his party, and he would have known about in 2019, before the county even had officially taken over the EMS service. In fact, I think it woul be unusual for him not to discuss or know what state legislators are doing or trying to do to address the reimbursement issue. But in the end he decided to have the county government take over than to let it manage itself. And I imagine that would also let the commissioners have say over any profits the EMS gets. I mean was Woodall's only plan to increase funding was to go after people's tax returns, something that would only end up collecting a tiny amount? Considering the timing of everything it just raises my curiousity and I think this is a reasonable possibility, considering how the hospital uses nursing homes as a cash cow for their projects.

    I believe these are reasonable speculations to make and I don't think my comment should be deleted over it. You've got these out-there republicans on here posting nonsense all the time and it doesn't get deleted.

    -- Posted by Raker on Sun, Oct 9, 2022, at 5:47 PM
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