Undocumented drivers, school board politics hot topics for legislators

Monday, February 20, 2023
State Sen. Rod Bray (center) responds to a question from Greencastle Mayor Bill Dory (right) as State Sen. John Crane listens in Saturday morning following the second of three 2023 Legislative Update programs sponsored by the Putnam County Farm Bureau.
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Driving privilege cards and school board elections dominated the discussion Saturday morning at the second Putnam County Farm Bureau Legislative Update session of the 2023 Indiana General Assembly.

State Sens. Rodric Bray (R-Martinsville) and John Crane (R-Avon), who jointly represent Putnam County, addressed about 20 individuals in the Farm Bureau board room in Greencastle, commenting on the progress of a portion of the some 1,200 bills before Indiana lawmakers this session.

Senate Bill 248, concerning driving privilege cards, provides that an individual who is an Indiana resident and cannot provide proof of identity and lawful status in the United States may apply for a driving privilege card to obtain driving privileges.

A number of undocumented workers are routinely employed on Indiana farms and drive vehicles like grain trucks on public roadways, the legislators noted.

“What seems to happen now,” Bray explained, “is that these individuals get involved in an accident and just take off.”

The situation has produced “some lengthy conversations,” Sen. Crane reported. “Are we encouraging people to just skirt the law? One thing we all agree on, the system at the federal level is broken.”

The Senate bill, which has been passed over to the House now, provides that a driving privilege card may not be used as identification for any state or federal purpose other than to confer driving privileges, for the purpose of voting or to verify employment.

It also requires an individual who holds a driving privilege card and operates a motor vehicle to verify and maintain financial responsibility on any motor vehicle operated by the individual. It also provides that the Indiana Bureau of Motor Vehicles may not disclose certain information unless presented with a lawful court order or judicial warrant.

“Full disclosure,” Crane added, “I was one of the ones who voted against it.”

The Avon senator noted that “the very things that make the United States the United States is what draws people here. When they stop looking to the U.S. to better themselves, that’s when we have a problem.”

Bray, who serves as Senate president pro tempore, asked audience members how they feel about the issue.

There were but a couple of brief responses, most notable of which was Barbara Boese saying, “They’re driving already. It’s a no-brainer.”

Meanwhile, the idea of school board candidates attaching political affiliations to their campaigns again reared its head Saturday morning.

Bray noted that are two versions of the bill, one in each chamber. The Senate bill is not moving, he said, adding that he was unsure that the House will send its version on to the Senate for consideration.

A proposal under consideration in the current session would instead create a blanket requirement for school board candidates to identify as a Republican, Democrat or Independent. The bill has yet to advance from the Senate elections committee, however.

“I don’t think it’s going to pass if I read the tea leaves correctly,” Bray predicted.

Meanwhile, House Bill 1428, authored by Rep. J.D. Prescott (R-Union City) seeks to add political party identifications to what are now nonpartisan school board elections throughout the state.

The bill establishes a process for a school board or the voters in a school corporation to change the method by which the members of the school board are nominated and elected. It provides that the members of a school board may be nominated and elected by one of three processes: (1) Through nonpartisan election (as is the case under current law). (2) Through nonpartisan nomination (under the current process) and designation of a candidate’s political affiliation or independent status on the general election ballot. (3) Through nomination and election in a partisan process as other candidates for elected office are nominated and elected.

The House Elections Committee has adopted an amendment to the bill, allowing voters in a school corporation to decide on the elections via a ballot referendum.

Supporters suggest it is all about transparency for the voters — to provide as much information as possible before they cast their vote.

Whether through a school board vote or voter-led public question, school board candidates would either have to run in partisan primaries in order to be nominated for the general election, or forgo a primary altogether but have to use a partisan label in the general election.

The Indiana State Teachers Association, the state’s largest teachers union, has said it opposes partisan school board elections because “keeping the labels out helps people come together at the local level.”

Bray, however, stressed, “You can’t say you’re keeping politics out of schools. It’s been there a long time.”

Moderator Steve Cash said declaring a party affiliation would have altered his decision to run for school board at South Putnam.

“I would not have served 23 and a half years if I had to put my party down,” he said of indicating his party on all advertising and being listed on the ballot as such.

Audience member and local attorney John Zeiner agreed.

“In a county like this, local voters are going to know who the candidates are,” Zeiner said. “For us to elect school board members, we don’t need political parties involved. I strongly encourage the Senate not to pass it.”

Meanwhile, it was noted that Senate Bill 177 would move the candidate filing deadline for school board races up by 60 days. And House Bill 1036 requires candidates for school board offices to be nominated in the same manner as candidates for all other elected offices are nominated.

Bray said the shift would give constituents more time to get to know candidates.

As it now stands, Crane pointed out, voters have just six weeks from the time candidates are nominated to when they have to vote to vet and evaluate them.

The bill has unanimously advanced from the Senate chamber and now heads to the House.

District 44 State Rep. Beau Baird (R-Greencastle) was absent Saturday, opting to attend a town hall meeting in another county.

The third and final Legislative Update for 2023 is set for 9 a.m. Saturday, March 18.

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  • No UNDOCUMENTED. ILLEGAL. Once you give them "legal" rights to drive, then comes "legal" rights to vote (After MORE "legal" rights such as working "legally".

    -- Posted by Jaxks on Mon, Feb 20, 2023, at 11:20 PM
  • Jaxks,

    Do you prefer they stay illegal? Would you like to see a path that provides being a legal citizen? Is it possible there are illegal's who just needed to get here for safety reasons, lacked understanding, and desire to be positive contributors to society?

    Can we evict from the US legal citizens who have chosen to not be positive contributors to society?

    -- Posted by beg on Tue, Feb 21, 2023, at 3:15 PM
  • The single best thing we could do for our economy is pass sensible immigration reforms that open up our border and welcome in those that want to work and contribute. We need people willing to work hard. This will actually expand our economy and greatly help our large and small businesses prosper and grow.

    -- Posted by Koios on Tue, Feb 21, 2023, at 6:10 PM
  • My dad and his family immigrated here after becoming WW2 refugees and their first job in the states was on a farm because that's the only work they could do to get a financial start. Today you have to drive to work here so this is a catch22 situation. Ultimately this comes down to immigration legislation. Maybe Indiana has an opportunity do something here.

    -- Posted by ERROR404 on Tue, Feb 21, 2023, at 9:08 PM
  • They/we can talk about passing laws and making policy for those that follow and live within the laws. Trouble is that is not the current state of our state or country.

    The southern border is essentially non-existent.

    Estimates of the numbers coming in vary but, to date, seven million border crossers have been coached to claim asylum. They have promised to show for their court hearing later. Another number of got-aways are estimated at twice that. For those that don't do math that's the equivalent of twice Greencastle's population every day, not counting any got-aways.

    Those crossers don't want to be caught they know they are law breakers doing illegal things already, you know fentanyl/drugs/human trafficking of women and children.

    How much do you think the laws matter then?

    Close the border.

    -- Posted by direstraits on Wed, Feb 22, 2023, at 7:09 AM
  • Ask any police officer, they would prefer the non-citizens have a driving privilege license. As it is, the non-citizen may be operating his vehicle 100% within our laws, but not be properly licensed to drive here. By allowing them to have a driving privilege card, you eliminate a lot of problems and provide a system for the police to track and verify those that are causing problems on the road.

    Whether we like it or not, (I do not) the policy of our current president is to let anyone and everyone into our country. For the vast majority, they work and pay taxes just as I do. Why penalize them by not allowing them a legal method to get to and from work?

    -- Posted by rawinger on Wed, Feb 22, 2023, at 8:26 AM
  • Don't be fooled for a second that John Crane, Rodric Bray or any of these republicans care one bit about helping undocumented immigrants. Republicans are fighting against giving them a driver's license all across the country, so this is likely just a wild political strategy that they hope will turn into votes. Latin Americans are the fastest growing minority group in the state, and also vote more for republicans than any other minority group (because they're mostly catholic). In Florida in the last election, Latin Americans voted more republican than democrat... but that's just an outlier because of the Cuban vote, in every other state they vote about 2/3 or more for democrats. But if I were undocumented in a red state I wouldn't trust at all that I wouldn't get anonymously reported.

    -- Posted by Raker on Wed, Feb 22, 2023, at 9:43 AM
  • Beg,

    Thank you. You just reinforced my points. "Illegal" IS Illegal. If they need to get here for "safety" reasons, then DO IT LEGALLY. Don't you think it's ironic that in your statement, and many others they say the same thing. "These are law abiding people who are trying to escape oppression. . . etc" , but yet in their very first act they ARE BREAKING THE LAW. And a pathway to citizenship? Really. There is a pathway, it's called COME HERE LEGALLY.

    And in NO way am I saying they are all bad people. In fact, I know quite a few who came here Legally, and a few illegally, and they are very nice people. But just do it legally.

    -- Posted by Jaxks on Wed, Feb 22, 2023, at 10:22 AM
  • You missed the point but do enjoy the angle you take on my comment. Very interesting that is your take away.

    I am proud the we finally did get the SSLLC to bash the other political side in this article.

    -- Posted by beg on Wed, Feb 22, 2023, at 11:00 AM
  • Raker: Democrats good, Republicans bad.

    Reality: What has any politician done to help anyone except themselves?

    -- Posted by techphcy on Thu, Feb 23, 2023, at 9:31 AM
  • Techphcy, Dems are the populist party - the party of the working man. They are the people who are trying to protect and improve the quality of life for everyone. Republicans are the party of the business owner, who is trying to get rich by exploiting their workers as much as they can get away with, polluting as much as they can get away with, and being corrupt as much as they can get away with, to increase their profits. This includes not wanting to pay taxes for anything, no regulations on what they do, and creating a fascist authoritarian government that will keep them rich and let them be these terrible human beings without any consequences. Democrats are the party of civil rights and better quality of life, and republicans are basically just a coalition of the anti- to these, along with big business.

    Don't believe me? I just read that indiana republicans are going to get rid of the state income tax in the next few years. Why? Because income tax is progressive, and the rich will save alot of money. What about the eight billion dollars that will be missing from the state budget? Well, prepare for big cuts to education, infrastrucure, and never enough money to do anything else. The rest will be made up with hiked sales tax on every dollar you spend, and higher property taxes. Average workers might save a tiny bit in taxes every year, but low income and those living on SS will lose money. If that's the case, then why get rid of the income tax? Because republicans care about nothing else but using government to make money, and they play you for a sucker!

    -- Posted by Raker on Thu, Feb 23, 2023, at 3:18 PM
  • no they aren't.

    -- Posted by beg on Thu, Feb 23, 2023, at 11:44 PM
  • "The state’s income tax will drop to 3% next year and all triggers in the current law — benchmarks the state’s revenue growth must hit to move the rate down — have been removed. The rate will drop to its target of 2.9% three years earlier than originally proposed, by 2026.

    Republicans at the Statehouse are interested in eventually eliminating the state’s income tax entirely but Senate Republicans want to study the issue, looking for ways to fill the $8 billion revenue gap it would create. The cuts could be sticking point between the two Republican caucuses." https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2023/02/17/indiana-statehouse-house...

    - From the Institute on Taxation and Policy's study titled "Who Pays: A Distributional Analysis of the Tax Systems in All 50 States" (the sixth edition of the report) https://itep.org/whopays/

    STATES COMMENDED AS “LOW-TAX” ARE OFTEN HIGH-TAX FOR LOW- AND MIDDLE-INCOME FAMILIES. The 10 states with the highest taxes on the poor are Arizona, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Washington. Six of these are also among the “Terrible 10” because they are not only high-tax for the poorest, they are also low-tax for their richest residents.

    THE 10 MOST REGRESSIVE STATE AND LOCAL TAX SYSTEMS

    Ten states — Washington, Texas, Florida, South Dakota, Nevada, Tennessee, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Oklahoma, and Wyoming — are particularly regressive, with upside-down tax systems that ask the most of those with the least. These “Terrible 10” states tax their poorest residents — those in the bottom 20 percent of the income scale — at rates up to six times higher than the wealthy. Middle-income families in these states pay a rate up to four times higher as a share of their income than the wealthiest families.

    What characteristics do states with particularly regressive tax systems have in common? See Figure 4 for a look at the ten states with the most regressive tax systems. Several important factors stand out:

    • SEVEN OF THE 10 STATES DO NOT LEVY A BROAD-BASED PERSONAL INCOME TAX — FLORIDA, SOUTH DAKOTA, NEVADA, TENNESSEE, TEXAS, WASHINGTON, AND WYOMING.

    -- Posted by Raker on Fri, Feb 24, 2023, at 11:58 AM
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