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Quincy man murdered in his home

Saturday, August 15, 2009

This home in Quincy just south of the Owen-Putnam county line was the scene of a Thursday night shooting that left a man dead. Sgt. Curt Durnil of the Bloomington Indiana State Police Post said Stanley Smith, age unknown, was killed after shots were fired during a reported "domestic situation." Angela Carmen, 57, was arrested in connection with the incident. She was charged with Class C felony reckless homicide and remains in the Owen County Jail I lieu of a $20,000 cash or surety bond. An autopsy on Smith is slated for 10 a.m. today in Terre Haute, Durnil said.

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There is so much sorrow in the world today. This is another example. I pray that God will ease the pain and suffering of the family and friends of Mr. Smith and that he will be with Angela in this dark time.

Jesus said, Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.

My heart and prayers are with the Smith family.

-- Posted by Matthew 11:28 JESUS said... on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, at 7:01 AM

I always thought she'd kill him but figured it would be by drinking or heart attack. We'll miss Stan. He was there so many times for so many people. That's how he got hooked up with her in the first place. He gave her a nice home and look how she did him. A C felony doesn't carry enough time for what she did. She would be getting away with murder. He's with his Creator now. She can't beat him or bite him anymore. I hope this is a 'sobering' experience for her that lasts the rest of her life.

-- Posted by Patti D on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, at 12:56 PM

where's her mug shot?

-- Posted by gottokno on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, at 2:00 PM

a couple people has said he was shot with a pellet gun! any truth to that?

-- Posted by badboy46120 on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, at 3:32 PM

As a Friend of Stan's He Will Be So Deeply Missed!! He was never a Violent Man In ANYWAY!! He would help anyone he could...This is Such A Big Devastation To All That Loved And Cared For Him...He Will Be So Deeply Missed and I Know We Will Grieve For Him For A Very Very Long Time..Our Hearts Go Out To All Of His Family & Firends!!To Only Get Charged With A C Felony is a Great Injustice To All Of Us That Loved and Cared About Him....He Never Ever Deserved To Have To Leave This World In Such A Mean and Cruel Way!!I Know God is Our Judge and She Will One Day Have To Answer To Our Good Lord!! We Love and Miss You So Very Much Stan!!! Your With Our Loving Lord Now So Rest In Peace!!! We Know You'll Be Watching Over All Of Us..

-- Posted by honestangel_59 on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, at 10:30 PM

Stan will be missed... he was a great leather smith, a good friend, a father who did care for all his children and in general a wonderful person to talk to...It is a sad time to see him go especially like this...I know that even though this has happened he will be watching over...

As for Angela...it was not her right to decide when Stan should pass...I do hope the prosecutor in Owen Co pushes for the max...I do not agree with the reckless homicide...she killed him...

I do hope that God will help us all with the suffering in our hearts that we have for both the passing of Stan and our hurt we have for Angela for what she has done...

-- Posted by bear73 on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, at 9:43 AM

we love u dad. i will miss u so much. its pretty bad i could have murdered someone and get a less of a charge than what i did for messing with drugs. wheres the justice in that!!!!

-- Posted by shane54_21 on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, at 11:32 AM

Hmmmm....I though Hallem was the first on the scene, you know the cop in Quincy, then Curry Shepard was the first rescuer. If he fell in the house then how come he laid out in the yard for about 2 hours before anyone was called. He was out in the yard when we drove by. What about all the people that were there when it happened. I know 2 people left when it happened and at least one other stayed there. If it was so bad and he was attacking her how come no one jumped in to help huh? Stan was a friend of our family's and she killed him. She deserves so much more than that. She was a bigger drinker than he was. If that's all she gets JUSTICE has not been served.

-- Posted by methatsall on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, at 11:42 AM

What has happened here is a tragedy for all families involved. I think its extremely tacky and shameless for people to use this message board to comment on Stan and Angela's personal life. It really isnt your place to say anything other than the facts of the case as you know it. What difference does it make where her mugshot is or what kind of gun was used? If they drank and did drugs that was their business not yours. My thoughts and prayers are with the Smith family and also with Angela and her family. God will judge as he sees fit. It isn't for us to do. Especially on a public board like this.

-- Posted by jadkins on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, at 12:12 PM

It was a shock for me to look online and read about this tragedy. Once more a life has been taken too soon. I don't read the paper that often due to a nervous condition, but I want to say that this man did not deserve to die the way he did. Many questions are left unanswered here and will we ever know what really happened? Probably not. Will she get by with "murder" or will the truth come out that they were both drunk and disorderly and maybe he pulled the pellet gun on her first and then she got it someway and the tragedy occured?? The only peope who know the truth is the man who was killed, by accident??, or did she mean to kill him? And you are so right, the only judge and jury in this whole situation is God and he who takes a life here on earth will surely pay at Heaven's Gate.

My sympathies to both families for both families for all of their lives have been changed forever.

-- Posted by whatnext on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, at 9:04 PM

Wow. This is getting crazy.

For some reason my first blog got erased. I didn't say anything half as bad as some of you all are saying. This is not a time for name calling. You don't need to be calling people meth heads and other names. What does that accomplish? Everyone is just expressing their pain, right or wrong.

Arguing back and forth will not bring stan back or bring justice to the situation. Because those who lost a son, a father, a grandfather, or a friend in this tragedy........ justice will never be served. He is still lost and no amount of jail time or arguing or hatred will ever change that.

It is a heartbreaking and confusing time for all involved on either end of the spectrum. What is left needs to be cherished.

I feel that everyone involved needs to do time, but I am not God or the judge. So, I will just remain confused and questioning just like the rest of you.

One fact that I do know.... I met stan many years ago and I know a lot of people who know him well.... love him or hate him, I have NEVER heard of(or seen) stan be a violent man.

-- Posted by Carol Lu on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 6:27 AM

I am very upset at the Class C felony charge that has been lodged against Angela. It should be MURDER. There is no way that she could have shot him if he was physically fighting with her, especially in the chest! Stan had a longer reach than she did, he was stronger than she was and outweighed her and was smarter than her (except in the fact that he allowed her to live with him).

While Stan may have had his faults (after all he is human!) for the most part he was a kind man. He had a deep respect for people & nature. He loved his children very much and had expressed to me that he wished he had spent more time with them. He enjoyed his grandchildren every time he was with them.

Stan liked to work with his hands and could create very beautiful things at his leather shop. He was happy when he told me that he had reopened his shop.

Angela took a lot of things away from him while he was still alive. His grandchildren only got to come over when she was gone as she made their parents uneasy with some of her comments. She chased his children off whenever and however she could, sometimes viciously. Now she has taken him from his family permanently. How cruel.

I can write all these things because I knew Stan very well. He was my ex-husband but remained my friend. I also know how vicious Angela could be. While I waited for my sons and Stan to return from the store she grabbed a knife and threatened to kill me. Needless to say I went to Red and Maxine's to wait for my boys. When they returned and I went to get them Stan said that she was a little "unstable" at times and to forget it.

Well, it looks like Angela has done what she kept saying she would do which was to kill Stan. Let's hope and pray that she gets her just desserts.

-- Posted by CindyD on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 10:18 AM

I just read his Obituary, doesn't the paper check for misspleled names? His mothers maiden name was seplled Cassida, not Casside. I really hate it when you read something, anything, in the papers and they have a person name misspelled.

-- Posted by moo on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 10:18 AM

Many things have been said and many things have been speculated in this forum. Being someone who knew both Stan and Angie very well and spent time around them, I feel I must throw in my knowledge of the situation. Without getting too personal.

It is a fact that they both indulged in drinking way too much. However, I have no knowledge and know for a fact, 100%, there is no history of Stan being physically violent. That wasn't his nature. It was her's, especially when she had been drinking. Let me add this..when I say her's...I mean she was the agressive type, hateful, more mean spirited. To say she had a history of being physical, as well, I have no knowledge of that. However, I have first hand knowledge of her personality and verbal abuse when she was in this state.

Furthermore, on the day or evening of the incident, it is a fact noone was around when this took place. It is also a fact that Stan laid in the home for at least one hour before any type of call was made. This taking place only after a grandchild discovered what had transpired.

In addition, these rumors of he taking the weapon away and walking outside to return, getting a glass of water and then collapsing are totally unture. I know for 100% fact from family, from the police that examined the body, that Stan died instantly.

It will never be known what actually transpired up to the fatal shot. As only two persons were in the home when it happened. When others arrived one was already dead. The other started telling tales. This the one that had pulled the trigger. Does it seem possiple she was telling accounts to save her backside? You think about it.

Stan was like a brother to me, so anyone that has any knowledge with the family can figure out who I am.

I had nothing agaisnt either of them and like I stated there was an incident that Angie acted towards me in a very malicious way. This after many years of hearing her say, I love you.

Yes, she was intoxicated on the day Im referring to and yes it surprised me. Stan simply informed me to ignore her and said and I quote, "She's mean when she drinks."

Let me add one final piece of info that might make alot of folks feel beeter...I also happen to know that the class C felony charge is a preliminary charge only at this time. It's possiple it may be altered in the very near future. Awaiting more test results.

I just pray that the justice system won't let us down.

This shouldnt have happened and didnt need to happen.

Lets hope that those that do the crime pay the price.

-- Posted by Ijustknow on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 11:54 AM

I am sure the charge is what it is, because they have not done an autopsy and don't "know" for sure what happened yet. Once the autopsy results are back and an investigation is done, those charges can change. They just can't charge someone with murder until they are absolutely sure that is what they think happened.

-- Posted by putnammom on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 2:49 PM

Hmm. It seems like most people want to comment on how horrible of a person Angela is.. People, she is in jail. She has no internet access. She doesn't know what you are saying about her. So who are your comments meant for? Her family? They didn't do this to Stan. As a matter of fact they loved him VERY much. But they are the ones who are reading your comments. And for the ones that dont log on, they are definately hearing about them. If you are all such great friends of the family, why not pick up the phone and call them to tell them what you think about her? Her family is suffering just as much as you are. Sure it is in a different way but suffering all the same. Two entire families are devestated by this. I know you all are hurting, but enough is enough. This is how rumors get started. If it was you or me in jail or on trial for something this serious, I sincerely hope our children and grandchildren would not have to suffer for our actions! Could you imagine? Please stop acting like you know all the facts because nobody does. And for God's sake, PLEASE stop bringing up the "grandson". He is just a child! Thoughts and prayers to all involved..

-- Posted by jadkins on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 3:06 PM

im sorry for everyones loss,stan will be missed..

-- Posted by lisa ann on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 4:38 PM

I have a few good memories of Stan, back from his "Red-Legs" days. This news is bad enough, the loss is worse for his family of loved ones. Though his death was tragic, only the good memories will remain for those who cared about him.

-- Posted by Xgamer on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 5:14 PM

"It's lucky I'm clever, if I didn't know better.... I would believe only that which I've heard!"

-- Posted by Carol Lu on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 6:30 PM

God bless you Carol Lu. I think thats it in a nutshell

-- Posted by jadkins on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, at 6:50 PM

Have known Stan somewhat over the years; Angela not at all.

But I must say that I cherish -- have always and more now -- his beautiful leatherwork that I have and that I have given as gifts over the years. Truly a talented artisan.

-- Posted by Qneighbor on Tue, Aug 18, 2009, at 9:09 AM

I didn't know Stan that well, But I knew his kids and they all thought the world of him. I hope that she pays for what she did. I also think it is ridiculous that in today's world you can get more time for drugs then taking a life. I also feel for the other family (not her I hope she gets all the time possible)but, I have been in there shoes They had no control on what She did.

I will be praying for all involved. (except her.)

What a crazy world we live in!!!!

-- Posted by ChrissyCrowe on Tue, Aug 18, 2009, at 12:30 PM

I do not know any of the people involved in this tragedy, but I can totally relate to the situation. About 6 years ago in C'ville my mother shot and killed her boyfriend. Or so they say. Murder suicide. Both were drunk and there was no one else around. Alot of rumors were started and MY life was turned upside. People who my mom thought were her friends suddenly had nothing good to say about her, and people ignored the fact that this man had beat my mother for years, but that doesn't justify her actions. My heart goes out to both families, for both families have LOST in every sense. Nothing will ever be the same for anyone...trust me, I know....

-- Posted by C'ville friend on Wed, Aug 19, 2009, at 7:43 AM

I feel that there has been a great injustice for stan.I have known Stan for many years,he was not an abusive man,he was friend with everyone.It is a shame we don't have the old town hangings anymore cause she would deserve it.My family and I would like to send our deepest sympathy to all of stans family.I truly believe god will get her in the end.Nobody gets away with murder,surely to god not her........

-- Posted by myrnayo on Wed, Aug 19, 2009, at 11:10 AM

did not really know him, he was my nieces grandpa and i agree with the drug thing it is pretty bad that people get in more troble for drugs, it is a crazy world, and she should pay dearly for what she did.

-- Posted by BIGJON87 on Wed, Aug 19, 2009, at 11:57 PM

The dead cannot fight for justice..... It is up to the living to do it for them.

-- Posted by Carol Lu on Tue, Aug 25, 2009, at 8:39 AM

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