County chooses contractor to demolish Jones School

Wednesday, January 25, 2023
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Long debated by county officials, the next step for Jones School became more of a reality on Monday morning.

In a 2-1 bid during a special meeting, the Putnam County Commissioners accepted a $208,948 bid from Denney Excavating to demolish the 69-year-old building.

While the bid from Denney was not the lowest submitted, all three commissioners saw positives in the level of detail to which Denney went in its bid, including breaking out the $42,000 bid to add topsoil, seed and straw as separate from the base bid of $166,948.

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County Engineer Jim Peck, in attendance for highway-related matters, noted that the inclusion of a plan for seed and straw is a positive, as the contractor will likely have to work with the city regarding erosion control with Indiana Department of Environmental Management regulations.

With commissioners Tom Helmer and David Berry voting in favor, Rick Woodall dissented on the final vote, wanting more consideration given to the low bid of $163,000 submitted by Collom Excavating of Rosedale.

Ultimately, though, Berry said was unsure of the level of detail and degree of experience on some of the lower bids, while all three agreed that several were too high.

For Berry and Helmer, the final consideration came down to Denney or Pickett Field Service of Crawfordsville with its bid of $205,169.90.

“If you take Denney and Pickett, they’re $3,000 apart,” Berry said. “That tells me they know what they’re looking at.”

“I’m just excited we’re going forward with tearing this building down,” Woodall said.

After serving the elementary students of Greencastle’s West Side from 1954 through 2001, Jones School became the Putnam County Courthouse Annex when Greencastle Community Schools sold it to the county for $1 following the construction of Deer Meadow Primary School.

It continued in its annex role until 2011, when the deteriorating condition of the building forced county officials to move all offices out of the building, with only the gymnasium utilized for storage until recently, when even that ceased due to a leaky roof.

In the last decade or so, officials have alternated between the opinion that the building and land should be sold and that it should be retained for the site of a future annex.

In 2017, the county even agreed in principle to the sale of the building and land to Milestone Ventures to turn the existing building into senior housing. However, Milestone was unable to obtain the Indiana tax credits it had in previous projects such as at the former Miller School, so the sale fell through.

Meanwhile, the building at the corner of Liberty and Madison streets has only become more delapidated, with a roof that now leaks in all parts of the building and windows boarded over several years ago.

At this point, county officials plan to keep the land for a future annex, although two nearby businesses — the Putnam Inn and West Central Veterinary Clinic — have expressed interest in buying portions of the property.

The cost of demolishing the structure will come out of the Putnam County Annex fund, which the commissioners established in recent years from Economic Development Income Tax money.

The commissioners plan to negotiate a timeline with Denney regarding the demolition.

In other business, the Commissioners:

• Agreed to the purchase of a new Caterpillar 320 excavator for the Putnam County Highway Department.

The equipment will be purchased on a five-year lease through First National Bank, whose interest rate of 3.79 percent was lower than those submitted by North Salem State Bank, Tri-County Bank and the manufacturer.

The lease will be paid in five annual payments, with the first due on Feb. 21, 2024.

• Signed the financial commitment agreement on the 2023 Community Crossings grant application.

The county is applying for $1 million to pave 1.73 miles of County Road 1050 South, with the county needing to provide $333,333.34 as part of the 75-25 matching program.

The grant has not been approved by the state.

Highway Director Clint Maddox noted the need.

“It carries a lot of the traffic from Ivanwald subdivision,” Maddox said. “As far as I know, there’s going to be an RV park there. It’s in the works.”

• Approved moving forward with an application to rehabilitate the decks of two bridges on West Walnut Street Road — Bridge 112 over Big Walnut Creek and Bridge 109 over Little Walnut Creek.

Bridge 112 will come at a total cost of $1,554,000, with a local match of $310,800. Bridge 109 will have a total cost of $1,249,250 and a local match of $249,850.

Like the Community Crossings grant, this funding has not been approved. Additionally, bridge work is a longer game, with the county currently applying for fiscal year 2028 funding. However, Peck said if the work is approved by the state and all goes well, the project could go out for bid as early as the summer of 2025.

The commissioners approved the local portion of funding.

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    Jones School holds lots of good memories. Those will remain even after the building is demolished. Thanks to all the staff members who helped create these memories.

    Alan Small

    -- Posted by asmall3286 on Wed, Jan 25, 2023, at 11:25 AM
  • So these republican commissioners have no problem spending an extra $42,000 tax dollars planting on an empty lot, knowing that in the near future will be dug up to build a new annex? I'm pretty sure the others companies would have at least leveled the ground, and a landscaper would have put down grass seed for a fraction of that.

    Further proof that republicans love spending taxes on everything except working families and the poor. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8FjSJNdL0mc

    -- Posted by Raker on Wed, Jan 25, 2023, at 12:24 PM
  • i have to agree with raker anytime a building is demo the contractor always back filled and smooth over to finish up waste of tax payers money to seed and grade when something is going to be built or sold later.

    -- Posted by kingswood on Wed, Jan 25, 2023, at 2:12 PM
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    They had an opportunity to create a native pollinator meadow in the meantime, until such a time as a developer took interest.

    Now it'll just be a mowing expense.

    -- Posted by Bunny1E on Wed, Jan 25, 2023, at 2:50 PM
  • Bunny1E I'd be concerned about all the pests that a pollinator field would attract, and being right in town. But if you're gonna build there why even bother with topsoil? In fact, why even bother with the grass, you could just leave it dirt? These republicans pinch pennies until we suffer and then do stuff like this. Being good stewards of our money? They are not.

    -- Posted by Raker on Wed, Jan 25, 2023, at 3:44 PM
  • As a sixth grader honored to have been allowed to help move into our new building, this ends the structure but not the memories there. We went from a 19th century firetrap into the newest structure in the corporation. A lot has changed in the intervening years, and the style was modern then but is inefficient now. The memories remain of dear teachers and good friends overjoyed in our grand move.

    -- Posted by landmhurst on Thu, Jan 26, 2023, at 8:13 AM
  • That is a shame they just let it sit and fall apart. That could have been a nice building for possibly small apartments. It would have been a nice place for the Putnam County Museum. Actually, I heard they were tearing it down because of all the lead paint issues.

    -- Posted by Queen53 on Thu, Jan 26, 2023, at 8:24 AM
  • Mr Allen- You most definitely contribute to those memories for a lot of us "kids"! With so many teachers over the years, some you remember, some you don't and some like you could never be forgotten!

    -- Posted by djc2020 on Thu, Jan 26, 2023, at 11:35 AM
  • I truly believe anyone just right of the SLASCLL could give everyone gold and there would still be complaints.

    I remember my father saying we get what we pay for. Maybe this is a better bid? Maybe not?

    I know I would not choose the lowest bid on many things I would want work done on.

    As for the other aspect of the complaint, I will share what I was told by someone on the Hill one day- definition of wasteful government spending is spending I don't agree with.

    So true. Yes, ALLLLLLLLL in power love to spend. Yes, ALLLLL citizens love the spending when they agree with it or directly benefit from it.

    They hate it when they don't

    -- Posted by beg on Thu, Jan 26, 2023, at 2:40 PM
  • It just plain wasteful. It's a building demo, they're not remodeling a kitchen. Who cares about more experience knocking down a building? Was the low bid not insured in case something happened? Makes no sense. There's times when you might not want to use the lowest bidder, and this isn't one of them.

    Remember this when they tell you they need to raise taxes to pay for all the new expenses that are coming with the new annex building.

    -- Posted by Raker on Thu, Jan 26, 2023, at 7:09 PM
  • They would do that no matter which bid they chose.

    -- Posted by beg on Thu, Jan 26, 2023, at 11:23 PM
  • Who cares about more experience? I do. When demolition crews don’t know what they’re doing, people die. You’re right; this isn’t remodeling a kitchen.

    -- Posted by techphcy on Fri, Jan 27, 2023, at 6:41 AM
  • To: Queen53

    The building housed the Putnam Co. Museum and the Putnam Co. Cooperative Extension office at one time. There were other offices, too. I do not recall which ones.

    -- Posted by rawinger on Fri, Jan 27, 2023, at 6:51 AM
  • techphcy- the commissioners are saying that what matters is being in business for 50 years, not cost. It's the same thing they did a few years ago when they replaced the hvac system at the jail. Again, they chose the bid that cost tens of thousands more simply because the company had been in business for 70 years. Meanwhile, the company with the lowest bid had installed HVAC in buildings for Walmart, Amazon and I think also Google.

    There are laws requiring the lowest bidder to be selected when it comes to certain kinds of projects, mainly because its tax money they're using. Of course, they added exceptions to basically let them choose whichever bid they want for any made up reason.

    If the contractor has the skills and equipment to perform the job as stated in the contract, and unless they have specific reasons why a contractor isn't qualified, then they really should be choosing the lowest bid.

    -- Posted by Raker on Fri, Jan 27, 2023, at 12:24 PM
  • I started first grade there in 1961. The only teachers I remember are Mrs. Brown and Mrs. DeVaney. Mr. Tzouanakis was the principle. During lunch milk was glass bottles. Seemed like some kid always dropped one on the floor to see it break and make a mess. They would use the cafeteria to show movies. Just memories from a long time ago.

    -- Posted by donantonio on Fri, Jan 27, 2023, at 2:10 PM
  • Like I said, this reminds me of the bidding for the jail hvac replacement in 2018. I remember reading about it and wondering why they chose the higher bid. https://www.bannergraphic.com/story/2546592.html Jail custodian Tom Gilson said it was because they were going to replace the wiring, which I thought was unusual. So out of curiosity, I picked up copies of the bids from the auditor's office so I could understand why. Not only did the bid that was chosen (JMI $104,000) make no mention of replacing the wires, it specifically said "We will reuse as much of the existing controls as possible. This includes relays, actuators, transducers, wiring, etc. If the hardware we plan to reuse is defective it will need repaired or replaced on a separate job and is not included in this proposal." While the low bid that was rejected (Enviro-max $72,000) said "Existing panels and wiring will be reused where applicable." In that news article you'll notice that they didn't want to use the cumulative jail fund to pay for it (not sure why that would've mattered), so they likely chose the more expensive bid simply to use money from other sources. So either they lied to provide cover for unnecessarily spending $32,000, or they're just incompetent.

    -- Posted by Raker on Sun, Jan 29, 2023, at 4:21 PM
  • The current President said last week there is no waste in government spending so I am going to believe him!!!

    -- Posted by beg on Sun, Jan 29, 2023, at 8:32 PM
  • Once again, the phony, lying republicans are trying to use the debt limit vote to force cuts to government programs that are already underfunded. Is that what you're talking about, beg? Con-servatives won't say what the "waste" is because they're talking about social security and healthcare, which they know will lose them votes so they'll just lie and call it "waste".

    -- Posted by Raker on Sun, Jan 29, 2023, at 10:59 PM
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