DAZE WORK: Park vandalism a black eye for civic pride

Monday, November 6, 2023

From spray-painted graffiti to trashed shelterhouses and damaged restrooms, vandalism has been a persistent problem at Greencastle city parks for decades.

Perhaps the most egregious over the years was destruction of the new rim and backboard less than 24 hours after their installation at the basketball court adjacent to the Robe-Ann Park tennis courts about 35 years ago. Instigated by young men old enough to know better, it came during a period when the city was literally spending more money on the dead than the living, as one former city councilman put it, looking at a 1980s budget. And that’s true. For years the city spent more money manicuring the grounds at Forest Hill Cemetery than it did on upkeep and programming at Robe-Ann Park.

But Robe-Ann Park isn’t the only facility in the crosshairs of vandalism. It’s been true at Big Walnut Sports Park, too.

The glass backboard at the sports park courts has been destroyed and replaced three times to the tune of $1,200 a shot. Why someone feels compelled to throw a rock or a hunk of concrete through a glass backboard makes no sense.

Sadly, the courts and backboard were donated by the A Kinetic Change group, created by Mark and Julie Carr and their family in memory of son Keith, who died in a tragic accident while on a college trip to Italy. It’s like adding insult to injury.

It’s all enough to make your blood boil.

Disgraceful. Despicable. Disrespectful.

That brings us to Robe-Ann Park and the end of October.

With surveillance cameras now in place at Robe-Ann, you would think the situation would be better. But recently the cameras captured some nefarious activity at shelterhouse No. 5 at the northeast end of the park. Two men were arrested in separate incidents of drug use, including one snorting a substance off a picnic table.

But the latest act caught on tape is perhaps the most troubling. It appears the perpetrator was a nine-year-old -- let that sink in a second -- a nine-year-old boy was caught on surveillance video damaging the door and new paint job at the site of the ongoing renovations at the Robe-Ann restrooms.

Apparently miffed at finding the restrooms locked and refusing to use the nearby port-a-let, the youngster kicked the door and scratched it. Since it had been freshly painted, the work had to redone in a situation City Clerk-Treasurer Lynda Dunbar said could approach $1,000. “It’s not chump change,” she stressed.

The boy also reportedly destroyed the sign that detailed the renovation work and -- in the ultimate indignation -- finished his little hissy fit by urinating on the restroom door.

“Did he know he was on camera?” Park Board member Doug Hutchison asked after hearing Assistant Park Director Chrysta Snellenberger’s report at the November Park Board meeting

“Oh, he knew,” Snellenberger assured. “When he was done, he flipped off the camera.”

Again, just nine years old.

The boy has been “trespassed from the park for a year,” Snellenberger reported, meaning he won’t be allowed to visit the park and will be summarily removed if found on the premises.

Obviously a juvenile, the boy is known to ride his bike over to Robe-Ann from his residence a couple blocks away. He tends to frequent the skatepark area. How it will be policed to keep him away remains to be seen.

Meanwhile, Snellenberger asks that anyone who sees anything suspicious going on at the park contact the park office or call central dispatch.

So it has come to this: We have to ban children from park premises because they can’t control themselves on public property that’s paid for by you and me.

Does the punishment fit the crime? Restitution for the restroom repairs and clean-up work is probably more appropriate than a ban. Whether that can occur is uncertain without the situation moving forward toward some kind of prosecution -- of a nine-year-old. Certainly the police and the prosecutor have more important things to do.

If this were my kid, I know I’d be utterly embarrassed and would already be administering my own punishment. Let’s hope that’s happening in this case, although from what Snellenberger told the Park Board, I doubt it. When young vandals are caught, she routinely asks that if they are ordered to do community service that they be assigned to her direction. Unfortunately, she said they can’t do that unless the parents agree.

Sounds like a perfect time for some parental guidance.

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  • I remember hearing this once- "Parent your child when they are young and you can be their friend when they are old. Be a friend to your child when they are young, you will have to parent them when they are old."

    Sadly, as a society (or at least leadership on a national scale), we don't honor the concept of parenting to near the degree that would be best for society.

    We are reaping those results.

    -- Posted by beg on Mon, Nov 6, 2023, at 7:11 PM
  • When juveniles commit this sort of either public or private destruction of property the parent(s), and the juvenile, must be held accountable at some level. Especially the parent(s).

    -- Posted by Koios on Mon, Nov 6, 2023, at 9:42 PM
  • I think they made the right call with the ban and not pressing charges on the kid. They probably went to his house and saw a bunch of Trump flags and F Joe Biden stickers, then realized why he was so angry and thanked him for only scratching the door. The poor boy's already got it pretty rough, they just took pity on him!

    -- Posted by Raker on Tue, Nov 7, 2023, at 7:26 AM
  • Lack of restitution and prosecution sends no message to this kid or any others who hear the story. Ban him from the park with no attendants on duty is in reality an empty move. Everyone has an opinion and mine is prosecuting could actually send a message to these kids that vandalism will not be tolerated.

    -- Posted by Alfred E. on Tue, Nov 7, 2023, at 7:29 AM
  • Prosecuting could end up with a sentence of community service, then parents couldn’t refuse.

    -- Posted by kbmom on Tue, Nov 7, 2023, at 7:52 AM
  • Someone needs therapy

    -- Posted by beg on Tue, Nov 7, 2023, at 8:36 AM
  • I think the parents need the community service sentence for restitution. Then they can work alongside their child whom they would need to bring with them...oh wait, they would probably just let the child roam the streets like now.

    -- Posted by infiremanemt on Tue, Nov 7, 2023, at 4:27 PM
  • When I was a preteen, I vandalized a restroom along with another kid. I was beaten soundly, and had to spend a whole summer vacation working to buy supplies, and fixing the damage I did. A valuable lesson was learned that summer.

    The other kid got off scot free, and ended up as a violent, abusive drug and alcohol addict that no one — not even his own family — liked. He hung himself in his garage a few years ago.

    He was a democrat, for what it’s worth.

    -- Posted by techphcy on Tue, Nov 7, 2023, at 5:05 PM
  • This kid, a 9 year old child, was angry that he had to pee and the restroom was closed....but he didn't harm anyone or steal anything. He was just angry and obviously has behavioral issues. He's probably got a situation at home. Or maybe he did it for the thrill, who knows? Either way, it's really not necessary to put him in the juvenile system with a record that will follow him. They probably had squad cars roll up to his house and had a serious talk with him. Plus, he can't go to the park for a whole year when all his friends are probably there. I believe that's enough. If he does something else or shows up at the park, then that's another story. But leave it to republicans to call for his head, always being unnecessarily harsh to the point of being abusive and backwards.

    -- Posted by Raker on Tue, Nov 7, 2023, at 6:07 PM
  • techphey wrote, "The other kid got off scot free, and ended up as a violent, abusive drug and alcohol addict that no one — not even his own family — liked. He hung himself in his garage a few years ago.

    He was a democrat, for what it’s worth."

    And then Raker tops that with something about Trump flags and F joe Biden stickers and the following comment. "But leave it to republicans to call for his head, always being unnecessarily harsh to the point of being abusive and backwards."

    I spilled my French fries and struggled to keep from laughing! Two of my most favorite commenters!

    -- Posted by Prince of Stardust Hills on Tue, Nov 7, 2023, at 7:04 PM
  • Why are the parents not made to pay restitution? And why should the taxpayers keep paying over and over and over again if you know who the childs parents are? Sue the parents since the prosecutors office has bigger and better things to do than "prosecute" a nine year old. Its not the taxpayers responsibility to keep paying.

    -- Posted by Keepyaguessin on Tue, Nov 7, 2023, at 8:02 PM
  • A 9 year old “sentenced” to do one community service won’t have that record follow him.

    -- Posted by kbmom on Tue, Nov 7, 2023, at 8:55 PM
  • It’s all about accountability. Someone needs to be held to it. I vote for the parent(s).

    -- Posted by Koios on Tue, Nov 7, 2023, at 10:26 PM
  • I'm pretty sure that in order to force someone to do community service there would have to be a court case, and a court order to do the community service as punishment for a crime. That record doesn't disappear when you become an adult. It's still accessible by the courts, attorneys, and law enforcement.

    -- Posted by Raker on Tue, Nov 7, 2023, at 11:13 PM
  • Raker, if this minor event is the only thing on a juveniles record, when they turn 18, they can ask to have their record destroyed. A minor offense…lesson learned…no record following them. Sorry I didn’t explain I understand juvenile rights and the law.

    -- Posted by kbmom on Wed, Nov 8, 2023, at 8:38 AM
  • Oh I see, so to get the records either expunged or destroyed you have to make a court request. Expunged means hidden from the public, and destroyed mean completely erased so no one can ever see it. I didn't even know there was a difference! So all he would need to do is somehow learn that he can request to have his records destroyed when he turns 18, something most people probably didn't even know you needed to do, and then remember to do this when he's 18. Then hire an attorney to ask the court to destroy the records and hope they say yes? Sounds like a ridiculous amount hoops to jump through...

    Or, you could maybe figure out a better way to handle the situation, and you don't have to break his spirit and put him on a criminal career path to do it.

    -- Posted by Raker on Wed, Nov 8, 2023, at 10:38 AM
  • @Raker - if this had happened to your, say, front door by a neighborhood kid, would you have such a "meh" attitude? My guess is you wouldn't...so why does the city have to? The kid has already made choices that are leading him to "a criminal path" and you want to enable that even more? Like I said before, charge the parent(s) and have them do the community service or pay restitution. Quit trying to make this out like a felony, there have been plenty of kids that did community service and have become fine adults later on.

    -- Posted by infiremanemt on Wed, Nov 8, 2023, at 12:16 PM
  • @Raker - I actually know two fine law enforcement officers who got into trouble for being "minors in consumption" and now they uphold the law because society needs laws and consequences when they are not followed!

    -- Posted by infiremanemt on Wed, Nov 8, 2023, at 12:19 PM
  • Infiremanemt-

    1. He's 9

    2. Yes, depending on the specific situation I would probably do the same thing- not press charges and just deal wih the scratch or paint the door...

    3. This is probably shocking for you to learn, but nearly every person you've ever known has drank alcohol prior to being of age

    4. when you were a kid and got mad, maybe you slammed a door or punched the wall, or you broke something. What your saying is that parents should be calling the police having kids do some community service? Or can you understand the concept of having a serious discussion with the kid about their actions, and the giving them a consequence of not being able to do something they like for a period of time?

    -- Posted by Raker on Wed, Nov 8, 2023, at 12:56 PM
  • I say we should be allowed to urinate anywhere we want without punishment.

    We should also teach in schools that it is ok to take a bio break anywhere we desire.

    -- Posted by beg on Wed, Nov 8, 2023, at 3:17 PM
  • @Raker (since you need bullet points):

    1. So...he knows (or should) right from wrong. That is an age where discernment does happen - hence he knew to flip off the camera - HE KNEW.

    2. Very hard to believe since you're so defensive.

    3. Thanks for helping prove my point - not every one that has gotten caught has turned to a "life of crime". You insinuate that all of them do if the get in a little trouble.

    4. No, what I am saying is the CITY should call the police on the PARENTS for allowing their child to run around and VANDALIZE city property. I am saying the PROSECUTOR should punish THE PARENTS (community service or restitution). And, what I am saying is the child should be banned for a year. I never suggested that a parent call the police on their child... The PARENTS could just voluntarily OFFER to pay the restitution, that would be a nice gesture.(And they might have...)

    5. We agree to disagree...bad choices (SHOULD) have consequences

    -- Posted by infiremanemt on Thu, Nov 9, 2023, at 9:40 AM
  • I’m with beg on this one.

    -- Posted by techphcy on Fri, Nov 10, 2023, at 12:39 AM
  • Now now now, guys, put the belts and fists away, we don't allow that anymore. You'll just have to take it out on the dog...

    Haven't you learned from those documentaries about the life of a serial killer, it always starts out with the strict, abusive bully parent?

    -- Posted by Raker on Fri, Nov 10, 2023, at 9:52 AM
  • I've also seen documentaries where the parent is perpetually absentee and allows their child to roam around doing whatever he or she feels like they want to do at any given time no matter what it is....so the point is? (Bad choices have consequences no matter if it's the parent or the child)

    -- Posted by infiremanemt on Fri, Nov 10, 2023, at 11:25 AM
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